Could your business survive a month without you or would it collapse the minute you left?

In this episode, Bill shares a personal story about stepping away from his company for a month-long family trip to Italy—and what it took to make that possible. It’s not just about systems and scorecards (though those matter), but about shifting your leadership style and truly empowering your team. This isn’t a fantasy. It’s a leadership strategy that can dramatically improve your life and business.

Topics explored in this episode:

(00:26) The Real Question: Can You Leave?

*Taking a month off wasn’t convenient, but it was necessary—and Bill committed to making it happen.

(03:40) The Leadership Problem

*Even with systems in place, Bill realized he was still the bottleneck. His team couldn’t step up if he didn’t let go.

(04:29) Training the Team, Slowly and Steadily

*How he rewired his leadership by handing off responsibility and asking, “What will you do when I’m gone?”

(08:03) The Result: A Month in Italy

*His team performed beautifully during a critical growth phase. No fire drills. Just updates and momentum.

(09:30) Stop Being the Hero

*If you always need to save the day, you’ll always surround yourself with people who need saving.

Bill Gallagher, Scaling Coach and host of the Scaling Up Business podcast, is an international business coach who works with C-Suite leaders to achieve breakthrough growth.

Join Bill in the Growth Navigator Coaching Program: https://ScalingCoach.com/workshop 

Bill on LinkedIn: https://www.LinkedIn.com/in/BillGall

Bill on YouTube: https://www.YouTube.com/@BillGallagherScalingCoach 

Visit https://ScalingUp.com to learn more about Verne Harnish, our team of Scaling Up Coaches, and the Scaling Up Performance Platform, which includes coaching, learning, software, and summit. We share how the fastest-growing companies succeed where so many others fail. We help leadership teams with the biggest decisions around people, strategy, execution, and cash so that they can scale up successfully and beat the odds of business growth. 

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How do you grow your business and your reputation without faking it?

In this episode, Bill sits down with Ramon Ray, entrepreneur, speaker, and author, to explore how authentic visibility fuels business growth. From meeting the President to selling three companies and pivoting during a pandemic, Ramon shares real stories about showing up, adding value, and becoming your own best brand asset. Whether you're building your first business or reinventing your voice, Ramon offers a masterclass in connection, resilience, and personal branding that actually works.

Ramon Ray is a five-time entrepreneur, best-selling author, and global keynote speaker known for his infectious energy and deeply human approach to business. He’s the founder of ZoneofGenius.com and has interviewed everyone from President Obama to the founders of major brands. Ramon’s mission? To help entrepreneurs build not just successful businesses, but joyful lives.

Topics explored in this episode:

(08:10) Meeting the President

• Meeting the President wasn’t a fluke, it was the result of years of showing up and serving with integrity.
• Visibility follows value. Recognition happens when you're focused on impact, not status.

(18:00) Lessons from Selling Three Companies

• An exit doesn’t have to be massive to be meaningful. Even modest acquisitions can be life-changing if they align with your goals.
• Reinvention is part of the entrepreneurial cycle. Each sale opened new creative and professional doors.

(29:45) The Power of Personal Brand

• How do you become a ‘celebrity’ CEO? Ramon shares his take on visibility, trust, and being the brand without being fake. 
• Brand is resilience. Ramon’s reputation and authenticity made it easier to pivot to new avenues because people already trusted him.

(39:10) Nobody Wants Boring

• It’s okay to tweak your content depending on your audience. The key is to stay engaging.
• Show up where you’re wanted. Look for strategic opportunities that align with your voice and values.

(45:40) Best Way to Build Your Unique Voice

• Use social media as a low-stakes way to develop and express your personal brand.
• Don’t hide behind the company logo, add to it with your personality.

Thanks to Ramon Ray for being on the show!

Connect with Ramon on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ramonraysmallbiz/

Learn more about his work: ZoneofGenius.com

Get his book: The Celebrity CEO: How Entrepreneurs Can Thrive by Building a Community and a Strong Personal Brand - https://a.co/d/aeJ0eQm

Bill Gallagher, Scaling Coach and host of the Scaling Up Business podcast, is an international business coach who works with C-Suite leaders to achieve breakthrough growth.

Join Bill in the Growth Navigator Coaching Program: https://ScalingCoach.com/workshop 

Bill on LinkedIn: https://www.LinkedIn.com/in/BillGall

Bill on YouTube: https://www.YouTube.com/@BillGallagherScalingCoach 

Visit https://ScalingUp.com to learn more about Verne Harnish, our team of Scaling Up Coaches, and the Scaling Up Performance Platform, which includes coaching, learning, software, and summit. We share how the fastest-growing companies succeed where so many others fail. We help leadership teams with the biggest decisions around people, strategy, execution, and cash so that they can scale up successfully and beat the odds of business growth. 

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What if your obsession with “getting it right” is actually making everything harder?

In this short solo episode, Bill unpacks why leaders often resist simplicity, even when the evidence shows that simpler rhythms like daily huddles and weekly meetings drive better execution. He shares a cautionary tale of a team that struggled to implement Scaling Up habits because they were too focused on customizing and controlling every detail. The lesson? Stop overcomplicating. Embrace ease.

Topics explored in this episode:

(00:05) Easy Isn’t Lazy

*Why simplifying operations is a mark of strong leadership; not weakness or laziness.

(01:10) A Team That Overcomplicated Everything

*A client’s resistance to basic practices like daily huddles and weekly meetings derailed their growth.

(02:45) The Cost of Not Trusting the Process

*Each team member wanted to “get it right” their own way, which led to silos, stalled execution, and no progress on quarterly priorities.

(04:15) The Cure for Overthinking

*How great leaders build predictable rhythms and make execution feel frictionless.

(05:25) The Case for Easy

*From customer experience to vendor and team interactions, ease is the ultimate scaling advantage.

Bill Gallagher, Scaling Coach and host of the Scaling Up Business podcast, is an international business coach who works with C-Suite leaders to achieve breakthrough growth.

Join Bill in the Growth Navigator Coaching Program: https://ScalingCoach.com/workshop 

Bill on LinkedIn: https://www.LinkedIn.com/in/BillGall

Bill on YouTube: https://www.YouTube.com/@BillGallagherScalingCoach 

Visit https://ScalingUp.com to learn more about Verne Harnish, our team of Scaling Up Coaches, and the Scaling Up Performance Platform, which includes coaching, learning, software, and summit. We share how the fastest-growing companies succeed where so many others fail. We help leadership teams with the biggest decisions around people, strategy, execution, and cash so that they can scale up successfully and beat the odds of business growth. 

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What makes an in-person event truly unforgettable and value-packed for the attendees?

In this episode, Bill sits down with Eric Rozenberg to explore how the best companies use live meetings to create culture, drive alignment, and build momentum. Eric shares insights from producing events for Fortune 500 companies and global brands, and explains how thoughtful, strategic meetings aren’t a luxury, but a very important growth tool. If you're wondering whether to gather your team in person this year, this episode will help you make the call.

Eric Rozenberg is an international event strategist, author of Before It’s Too Late, and founder of Event Business Formula. With more than two decades of experience creating events across six continents, Eric teaches leaders how to design live experiences that actually move the needle.

Topics explored in this episode:

(06:00) The Real ROI of In-Person Events

• Why meetings and conferences aren’t just about the content.
• The power of shared physical space to build trust and alignment

(15:30) Avoiding the “Event as Expense” Mindset

• How to justify and structure meetings so they deliver real business value
• Time spent with the right people is where the true business magic happens

(25:00) From Tactical to Transformational

• What separates logistics-focused events from culture-shaping ones
• How to build events that fuel strategic clarity and team momentum

(32:00) Leading Through Live Experiences

• Why your leadership presence matters more in person
• Mindset over Mishaps: When there’s a will there’s a way
• When things go wrong, focus on creating memories 

(37:45) The 7 Steps to a Successful Event

• Map out the main objectives with the client 
• Then you craft the unique experience around these objectives

Thanks to Eric Rozenberg for being on the show!

Connect with Eric on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericrozenberg/

Learn more about his work:https://eventbusinessformula.com/

Bill Gallagher, Scaling Coach and host of the Scaling Up Business podcast, is an international business coach who works with C-Suite leaders to achieve breakthrough growth.

Join Bill in the Growth Navigator Coaching Program: https://ScalingCoach.com/workshop 

Bill on LinkedIn: https://www.LinkedIn.com/in/BillGall

Bill on YouTube: https://www.YouTube.com/@BillGallagherScalingCoach 

Visit https://ScalingUp.com to learn more about Verne Harnish, our team of Scaling Up Coaches, and the Scaling Up Performance Platform, which includes coaching, learning, software, and summit. We share how the fastest-growing companies succeed where so many others fail. We help leadership teams with the biggest decisions around people, strategy, execution, and cash so that they can scale up successfully and beat the odds of business growth. 

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What if working harder is actually a lie that’s making your business worse?

In this episode, Bill shares a story of a billion-dollar company brought to its knees by a CEO who hustled too hard. What once starts as ambition can quickly turn into micromanagement and business confusion. Bill breaks down why hustle culture is a lie, what it’s really costing you, and how to shift out of this chaotic mode and into something much more sustainable. 

Topics explored in this episode:

(0:15) The Billion-Dollar Crashout

*The story of an ad tech CEO who lost 90% of company value by trying to do everything.

*Why over-involvement, scattered priorities, and non-stop hustle backfired.

(3:50) The Myth of More ‘Hustle’ 

*Hustle culture is a lie!!!

(6:10) It’s Time to Shift Out of the Hustle

1. Get Clear: Define a breakthrough BHAG and long-term strategy.
2. Build the Culture: Hire well, clarify roles, coach continuously.
3. Execute Intentionally: Prioritize, track key metrics, and meet with rhythm.
4. Get a Life: Really make conscious time for what’s important to you.

(9:00) Integration Over Sacrifice

*It’s all connected: You bring your life into work, and work into life. 

*Create a system that supports both.

Bill Gallagher, Scaling Coach and host of the Scaling Up Business podcast, is an international business coach who works with C-Suite leaders to achieve breakthrough growth.

Join Bill in the Growth Navigator Coaching Program: https://ScalingCoach.com/workshop 

Bill on LinkedIn: https://www.LinkedIn.com/in/BillGall

Bill on YouTube: https://www.YouTube.com/@BillGallagherScalingCoach 

Visit https://ScalingUp.com to learn more about Verne Harnish, our team of Scaling Up Coaches, and the Scaling Up Performance Platform, which includes coaching, learning, software, and summit. We share how the fastest-growing companies succeed where so many others fail. We help leadership teams with the biggest decisions around people, strategy, execution, and cash so that they can scale up successfully and beat the odds of business growth. 

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What’s really stopping your team from being more innovative, and how do you fix it?

In this episode, Bill is joined by Dr. Diane Hamilton, author of Cracking the Curiosity Code, to explore why curiosity, not just intelligence or skills, is the real key for innovation, engagement, and performance. Together, they dig into the hidden habits that stifle curiosity in leaders and teams, and how to cultivate a culture that asks better questions and solves better problems.

Dr. Diane Hamilton is a behavioral expert, researcher, and speaker whose groundbreaking work on curiosity has helped transform how companies approach culture, communication, and leadership. She’s the creator of the Curiosity Code Index and a leading voice on the future of work.

Topics explored in this episode:

(05:10) The Curiosity Crisis

*Why curiosity declines as we age

*How lack of curiosity hurts innovation at work

*The four fear-based factors that suppress curiosity: fear, assumptions, tech, and environment

(12:50) Formula 1 Efficiency vs. Hospital Mismanagement

*What happens when you bring in outside perspectives to improve your broken systems 

*How far would people go to blindly follow rules? 

(16:50) How Leaders Kill Curiosity

*Common leadership habits that discourage curiosity without realizing it

*The difference between curiosity and chaos: structure still matters

(31:30) Can Curiosity Be Measured?

*There is science behind measuring curiosity with the Curiosity Code Index

(35:10) Coaching Curiosity into Leadership

*Practical ways to coach and develop more curious thinking

*The link between curiosity and emotional intelligence

(40:50) The ROI of Curiosity

*Curiosity isn’t just nice to have, it brings in real revenue growth.

Thanks to Dr. Diane Hamilton for being on the show!

Connect with Diane on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drdianehamilton

Learn more about her work: https://drdianehamilton.com

Get her book: Cracking the Curiosity Code – https://drdianehamilton.com/cracking-the-curiosity-code-book

Bill Gallagher, Scaling Coach and host of the Scaling Up Business podcast, is an international business coach who works with C-Suite leaders to achieve breakthrough growth.

Join Bill in the Growth Navigator Coaching Program: https://ScalingCoach.com/workshop 

Bill on LinkedIn: https://www.LinkedIn.com/in/BillGall

Bill on YouTube: https://www.YouTube.com/@BillGallagherScalingCoach 

Visit https://ScalingUp.com to learn more about Verne Harnish, our team of Scaling Up Coaches, and the Scaling Up Performance Platform, which includes coaching, learning, software, and summit. We share how the fastest-growing companies succeed where so many others fail. We help leadership teams with the biggest decisions around people, strategy, execution, and cash so that they can scale up successfully and beat the odds of business growth. 

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What if scaling didn’t have to come at the cost of your health, your family, or your sanity?

In this episode, Bill challenges the common held belief that sacrifice is a rite of passage in entrepreneurship, especially during the growth phase. He shares the story of a tech CEO building a $200M company and outlines a four-part framework for scaling your business while also building a life you love. Spoiler: It's not about working harder. It's about rethinking your approach.

Topics explored in this episode:

(0:26) Can You Really Have It All? 

*A thriving business and a healthy life are not mutually exclusive.

*The story of a CEO who’s grown a $200M company while staying balanced and grounded.

(2:30) Four Steps to Scale Better

1. Set a BHAG (Big Hairy Audacious Goal): Anchor your strategy in a long-term, purpose-driven outcome.
2. Invest in People & Culture: Hire well, coach continuously, and create strong values-based accountability.
3. Execute with Rhythm: Align priorities, metrics, and meetings to stay focused and effective.
4. Get a Life: Create time for family, health, and the things you love.

(7:50) You’re Not Supposed to Work 1,000x Harder

*The CEO of a billion-dollar company doesn’t work 1,000 times more than you, they have to work differently.

*Scaling means evolving how you lead, not just doing more.

(9:40) What’s The First Step? 

*What do you need to redesign first?

*Who can help you shift your leadership style and strategy?

Bill Gallagher, Scaling Coach and host of the Scaling Up Business podcast, is an international business coach who works with C-Suite leaders to achieve breakthrough growth.

Join Bill in the Growth Navigator Coaching Program: https://ScalingCoach.com/workshop 

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Visit https://ScalingUp.com to learn more about Verne Harnish, our team of Scaling Up Coaches, and the Scaling Up Performance Platform, which includes coaching, learning, software, and summit. We share how the fastest-growing companies succeed where so many others fail. We help leadership teams with the biggest decisions around people, strategy, execution, and cash so that they can scale up successfully and beat the odds of business growth. 

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What if the most powerful move you could make as a founder is to stop being the one doing it all?

Today’s episode explores the mindset shift that turns your business from a job into a scalable, valuable system. Bill is joined by legendary entrepreneur and author Michael E. Gerber to discuss why strategically working on the business, not in it, is the single most important shift a founder can make. From designing scripts to building systems that run without you, Michael shares what it truly means to scale with intention.

Michael E. Gerber is the author of the best-selling E-Myth Revisited and with over 28 other books, Michael has spent decades helping entrepreneurs turn chaos into structure and systems. His latest creation is The Dreaming Room, an immersive experience designed to help business owners redefine their business vision and create a roadmap for success.

Topics explored in this episode:

(02:45) The Origin of the E-Myth

*How a chance encounter led Michael to uncover the hidden flaw in small businesses.

(08:05) Systems Are the Brand

*Why the DNA of a brand lives in its systems and not in its logo or marketing.

(11:45) From Script to Soul

*How do you express the same message over and over with intention and passion?

(14:15) Why McDonald’s Gets It

*What entrepreneurs can learn from Founder Ray Kroc about scaling through consistency.

(18:20) Sarah’s Pie Shop and the Power of Working On It

*An impactful story about a small business owner’s transformation from technician to entrepreneur.

(27:40) The Dreaming Room and the Eightfold Path

*The dreamer, the thinker, the storyteller, the leader, the designer, the builder, the launcher, and the grower.

(31:25) The Business Is the Product

*Don’t let the business become your boss.

*You have to create something of value in your business, or else you will go out of business.

*Most Small businesses are doing the wrong type of work.

(40:45) From NuCo to Scale

*Why scaling means letting go of “OldCo” and creating something that lives beyond you.

Thanks to Michael E. Gerber for being on the show!

Learn more about The Dreaming Room: https://www.michaelegerbercompanies.com

Contact Michael directly: [email protected]

Connect with Michael on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelegerber

Bill Gallagher, Scaling Coach and host of the Scaling Up Business podcast, is an international business coach who works with C-Suite leaders to achieve breakthrough growth.

Join Bill in the Growth Navigator Coaching Program: https://ScalingCoach.com/workshop 

Bill on LinkedIn: https://www.LinkedIn.com/in/BillGall

Bill on YouTube: https://www.YouTube.com/@BillGallagherScalingCoach 

Visit https://ScalingUp.com to learn more about Verne Harnish, our team of Scaling Up Coaches, and the Scaling Up Performance Platform, which includes coaching, learning, software, and summit. We share how the fastest-growing companies succeed where so many others fail. We help leadership teams with the biggest decisions around people, strategy, execution, and cash so that they can scale up successfully and beat the odds of business growth. 

Did you enjoy today’s episode? If so, then please leave a review! Help other business leaders discover Scaling Up Business with Bill Gallagher so they, too, can benefit from the ideas shared in these podcasts.

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What if your addiction to hustle is the very thing holding your business back?

In this episode, Bill unpacks the hidden addiction that plagues so many leaders: the need to feel busy. He explores how overworking, micromanaging, and always being “on” isn’t just unsustainable, but also a failure of effective leadership. Bill shares powerful stories of CEOs who broke the cycle and built stronger teams by stepping back, letting go, and empowering others to rise up to the occasion. 

Topics explored in this episode:

(0:10) The Hidden Costs of Busyness

*Being constantly busy feels productive, but it's actually a trap.

*Imagine a world where you could step back and things don’t fall apart.

(1:00) Case Study of a Fitness CEO

*A thriving business, healthy personal life, and empowered team; you can do it all by doing less.

*Why nudging, not rescuing, is the key to accountability and performance.

(3:15) The Output is More Important Than ‘Busy’

*Entrepreneurs love to glamorize their busyness, but true effectiveness is about results generated. 

(5:35) Let’s Take the Summer Off!

*Bill shares a story of how he restructured his company so he could take a month off and finally…relax! 

(6:15) Building a Team That Thinks for Itself

*Practical strategies for creating team ownership, like asking instead of solving.

*Stop solving problems for other people. 

*Train yourself out of the ‘fixer’ role. 

(8:10) From Founder to Scaler

*You can grow a business that thrives without you—and one you’re proud to sell (or keep).

Bill Gallagher, Scaling Coach and host of the Scaling Up Business podcast, is an international business coach who works with C-Suite leaders to achieve breakthrough growth.

Join Bill in the Growth Navigator Coaching Program: https://ScalingCoach.com/workshop 

Bill on LinkedIn: https://www.LinkedIn.com/in/BillGall

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Visit https://ScalingUp.com to learn more about Verne Harnish, our team of Scaling Up Coaches, and the Scaling Up Performance Platform, which includes coaching, learning, software, and summit. We share how the fastest-growing companies succeed where so many others fail. We help leadership teams with the biggest decisions around people, strategy, execution, and cash so that they can scale up successfully and beat the odds of business growth. 

Did you enjoy today’s episode? If so, then please leave a review! Help other business leaders discover Scaling Up Business with Bill Gallagher so they, too, can benefit from the ideas shared in these podcasts.

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How can leaders connect their personal purpose with their company's mission?

In today’s episode, Bill talks with leadership coach Ben Renshaw about the importance of discovering your personal why. They also discuss how aligning personal and company purposes can lead to more meaningful leadership and a positive work environment.

Ben Renshaw is a former classical violinist turned leadership coach who’s all about helping people find what truly lights them up. He’s worked with top global brands and execs, all while keeping his focus on one big question: what’s your why?

Topics explored in this episode: 

(1:11) Discovering Your Why

- Ben shares his journey from classical music to personal development.

- Co-founded The Happiness Project in the skeptical UK of the 1990s.

(7:45) Building Real Connection

- Ben reflects on how different cultures respond to emotional authenticity.

- How a company’s purpose can cascade into personal leadership development.

(14:21) Transforming Leaders from the Inside Out

- A reluctant CFO discovers his purpose and transforms into a CEO.

- Tools like personal dashboards help measure purpose in action.

(23:44) Scaling Purpose 

- Purpose isn't just personal—it can energize entire organizations.

- Meaningful work improves performance and employee engagement.

(35:51) Designing Purposeful Cultures

- The ripple effect of purpose touches supply chains, governance, and government policy.

- Purposeful companies create traditions and symbols that inspire the next generation.

Thanks to Ben Renshaw for being on the show! 

Connect with Ben on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-renshaw/ 

Learn more about Ben: https://www.benrenshaw.com 

Get Ben’s book, How to be a CEO: https://amzn.to/42xlLxJ 

Bill Gallagher, Scaling Coach and host of the Scaling Up Business podcast, is an international business coach who works with C-Suite leaders to achieve breakthrough growth. 

Join Bill in the Growth Navigator Coaching Program: https://ScalingCoach.com/workshop 

Bill on LinkedIn: https://www.LinkedIn.com/in/BillGall

Bill on YouTube: https://www.YouTube.com/@BillGallagherScalingCoach 

Visit https://ScalingUp.com to learn more about Verne Harnish, our team of Scaling Up Coaches, and the Scaling Up Performance Platform, which includes coaching, learning, software, and summit. We share how the fastest-growing companies succeed where so many others fail. We help leadership teams with the biggest decisions around people, strategy, execution, and cash so that they can scale up successfully and beat the odds of business growth. 

Did you enjoy today’s episode? If so, then please leave a review! Help other business leaders discover Scaling Up Business with Bill Gallagher so they, too, can benefit from the ideas shared in these podcasts.

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