This week I am joined by author Dan Arel who writes for Patheos as well as having been featured in Salon and HuffPost. He has recently published a new book, The Secular Activist, and we talk about this and separation of church and state issues and how these have to do with all of our freedoms, secular or not. We also discuss problems that Ken Ham has created by skirting the law and blatantly lying about employment requirements and stipulations at The Ark Encounter in Kentucky.

Music by Pale Blue and LinoRise. Commercial graphics courtesy of RetroTy.com.