This week’s show pairs up newly minted friends — and mutual fans — Shamir and Liza Anne. Originally broadcast on our Talkhouse Podcast Live on Insta series, we now present their hilarious and thoughtful convo in podcast form for your listening pleasure!

Keep it locked for their deep dive into religion and spirituality, including why Shamir longs to act the part of “the evil queer person in a corny low budget Christian movie.” They also take in finding one’s literal — or metaphorical — New York; Liza Anne’s determined focus on mental health; and which folk star Shamir was in a past life.

Check it out, and subscribe now to stay in the loop on future episodes of the Talkhouse Podcast, including Bob Mould with Bully's Alicia Bognanno, Hanif Abdurraqib with Adia Victoria, and Phil Elverum (The Microphones, Mount Eerie) with Mirah.

—Elia Einhorn, Talkhouse Podcast host and producer

For this week’s episode, everyone you hear recorded themself at their #stayhome studios. Our producer is Mark Yoshizumi.

The Talkhouse Podcast theme song was composed and performed by The Range.

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