Ambient composer, vocalist, and producer, Julianna Barwick and experimental harpist and composer Mary Lattimore, have been friends for over a decade, have toured together, and even guested on each other's albums, but their duo album Tragic Magic is their first full length collaboration and was brought about by a remarkable set of circumstances and an opportunity to record at the Museum of Musical Instruments in Paris. Julianna and Mary join Carmel Holt at Mophonics Studios in New York for a very special conversation recorded in front of a live audience.