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Audiences are changing the way they watch, listen and consume. We’re at an inflection point on the influence of traditional journalism and journalists versus personality-driven and perspective-driven voices.

Panelists: Charlamagne tha God, co-host of “The Breakfast Club” and co-founder of The Black Effect Podcast Network; Jon Favreau, co-founder of Crooked Media and co-host of “Pod Save America”; Amna Nawaz, co-anchor and co-managing editor of “PBS NewsHour”; David Remnick, editor of The New Yorker and host of “The New Yorker Radio Hour”; Stephanie Ruhle, host of MS NOW’s “The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle”; Andrew Schulz, host of “The Brilliant Idiots” and “Flagrant” with Akaash Singh; Ben Shapiro, co-founder of The Daily Wire and host of “The Ben Shapiro Show”

Moderator: Michael Barbaro, journalist and co-host of “The Daily” at The New York Times

Filmed live at the 2025 DealBook Summit

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