The Speaker Lab Podcast

Simplifying Your Speaking Business In Order To Grow with Taylorr Payne


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“Most successful or thought leadership businesses are extremely simple. They sell one thing at the front end, maybe a couple things on the back end…but they’re experts in X, Y, and Z.”

In this episode of The Speaker Lab podcast, we explore the importance of keeping things simple and intentional in the ever-changing world of speaking and entrepreneurship. Grant Baldwin sits down with Taylorr Payne, co-founder of SpeakerFlow, for an engaging discussion on building a thriving speaking business by focusing on simplicity, clarity, and defining success on your terms.

Taylorr opens up about his evolution as an entrepreneur, sharing how he transitioned from chasing endless opportunities to honing in on the fundamentals that truly matter. Whether it’s mastering the art of selling one core product, cutting through the distracting noise of shiny new technologies, or resisting the temptations of comparison, Taylorr emphasizes the transformative power of simplifying your business approach.

Throughout the conversation, Taylorr and Grant analyze the speaking industry's trends for 2025, the allure of AI and other new technologies, and the critical difference between chasing growth for its own sake versus creating a business that aligns with your personal goals and values. Taylorr reminds listeners to resist societal pressures to grow endlessly and instead focus on building a business that fits their lifestyle and passions.

This episode is packed with convincing arguments for staying in your lane, avoiding the pitfalls of overcomplication, and gradually building clarity about your unique expertise. Whether you’re an aspiring speaker finding your niche or a seasoned entrepreneur reevaluating your path, you’ll walk away with actionable strategies and a renewed sense of purpose. Tune in to take control of your speaking career with simplicity and intention at the core!

You’ll learn:

  • Taylorr’s background and about SpeakerFlow
  • The state of the speaking industry in 2025
  • Key principles for a successful speaking business
  • How to balance growth and simplicity
  • Personal reflection and business goals
  • The risk of comparison on your mental well-being
  • Investing and business strategy parallels
  • And much, much more!


“What are you an expert in? Make the world know that, period. That is it. That is forever what we’re doing.”

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