Sir Niall Ferguson, renowned historian and Milbank Family Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution, joins Azeem Azhar to discuss the evolving relationship between the U.S. and China, Trump's foreign policy doctrine, and what the new global economic and security order might look like. 

(00:00)  What most analysts are missing about Trump 

(05:43)  The win-win outcome in Europe–U.S relations 

(11:17)  How the U.S. is reestablishing deterrence 

(15:50)  Can the U.S. economy weather the impact of tariffs? 

(23:33) Niall's read on China 

(29:29)  How is China performing in tech? 

(33:35)  What might happen with Taiwan 

(42:43) Predictions for the coming world order 

Sir Niall Ferguson's links:

• Substack: Time Machine
• Books: War of the World, Doom: The Politics of Catastrophe
• Twitter/X: https://x.com/nfergus

Azeem's links:

• Substack: https://www.exponentialview.co/ 
• Website: https://www.azeemazhar.com/ 
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/azhar 
• Twitter/X: https://x.com/azeem

 Our new show This was originally recorded for "Friday with Azeem Azhar" on 28 March. 

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