In every generation there is a Virgin — the kind who hasn't until very recently seen turn of the millenium hit TV series Buffy The Vampire Slayer. This week, That Virgin is Fran, and this week, Fran gets inducted into Buffy fandom by superstans Rose and guest Watcher Evan Ross Katz, writer & Buffy herstorian. Their conversation spans teenage Buffy fandom — the message boards, fan fiction and the torture of real-time TV, the genius of Sarah Michelle Gellar, the ways that Buffy was the blueprint for a lot of what we know and love in TV today, and how the women who made Buffy what it is keep fans' love afloat in spite of the J*ss Wh*d*on-of-it-all.

Plus, Fran & Rose are still reeling from the cultural reset that is Rihanna's pregnancy announcement, J Lo's Drag Race cameo, Real Housewives pretending they suddenly care about racism, and the total bummer penultimate episode of And Just Like That's first season.

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