Kate and Jacqueline analyze what made a man on Twitter say such a nasty thing. The hags reflect on the indecency of Pop Crave and the courage it takes to feel ugly next to beautiful women. Jacqueline recounts interactions with trolls and Kate considers starting a Serial-esque podcast to get closure. Some of these men have dogs — daughters, even. Ultimately, this is the abstraction of violence — but the Hags wonder whether Daniel was just fulfilling his sacred contract to Kate. The walking brain is different and if you post about Tom Cruise he will see it.

Edited and mixed by Allie Graham

Music by Naomi McPherson

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Standing by with joy in their hearts, a mosquito enters the frame. At the beach, Jacqueline and Kate expanded their fields before a setting sun. Reckoning with pendulums, the hags consider the one-song party, the subjectivity formation of teen shopping, and the dangerous effects of music. A cat in the home means new patent possibilities from Jacqueline.  Condoms for your ear, analog visors, and sun hats.

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A theme of unconscious irritation suggests the podcast is entering its red period with Idiopathic Rosacea and Iatrogenic Eustachian Tube Dysfunction as the new hosts. Kate texts her doctor throughout the episode. Jacqueline’s secret merchandizing history reveals she’d rather be in Quadrant 2. One must live with some altitudinous awareness. Mel Brooks, Teresa of Avila, Caroline Myss, and Diana Vreeland.

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Kate had a disgusting chicory latte, her back bumper is fucked, and she is in a horrible mood. Jacqueline, buoyed by the bounty of her tech gears smells a classic episode brewing. A live product inventory unfolds and Kate’s mood lends itself to merciless clutter purging. None of us should take her mood personally. Repurposing old iphones, a turtle conservatory, and a highly scented serum that’s 100% full.

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The hags are back on seasonally appropriate fixations, gifting the eavesdroppers a real ear-load. Springform pans, relinquished and reacquired. Whisperings of a tart, darting and diagonaling in the market. A mother wakes in the night to witness a cake’s density. The cornerstone is the cornerstone. Cord inventory, face-first casting, a shoe garage. What is it to monger?

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At the dawn of the new year, Christmas needs unpacking. Jacqueline's voice breaks in elf mode and Kate secures a coveted table. Armed with two pens and a watercolor set, ritual pulls them in. Boo the Cat announces himself and the tiger breaks in, starving for a moment.  A storage unit gets unlocked as liquid code unfolds. A rare sighting of a bride at ease. Never so far from Paris as the moment she lands. Please don’t assume that no response means no thank you. Soft-playing gifts as gags, never moving the book, and faking a phone call. A childhood friend's dog resurfaces while reading—this life or previous? 

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Jacqueline Novak and Kate Berlant celebrate the arrival of 2026 with a heartfelt toast to their hag listeners. A somatic release, an aura cleanse, and a margarita. 

Wish all hags a Happy New Year on instagram and tag @poogpodcast. 

What a year it was. Thank you for being hags. It's just the beginning!

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As the New Year draws close, the veil is thin. Lost in parking structures, falling to pieces in Lowes, an unusual approach to calling on a handyman almost doesn't work. King sized bed frames forthcoming, questions of nightstands appear. To resent, to resist, to long for clean Gwyneth-mother-hands. Christmas happened. The hags read aloud an intimate and high stakes text thread. When Kate is disappointed, Jacqueline permits disappointment; only then might light creep in. In very big news, Boo the Cat, the wild boy from Jacqueline's courtyard, has moved in permanently. My god, the year ahead. There's peace in admitting it. 

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Yuletide is upon us and the hags are patently giddy. Jacqueline self-imposes limits in pursuit of a floor lamp while Kate fixates on a door protector for her wreath. A lighting specialist cold calls after hours and a candy cane’s glow keeps the neighbors awake. A scream, transmuted into jingle bells. When an artist produces Christmas for an only child. Chocolate bone broth, cake by the handful, and etched crystal bowls. To smash the gingerbread house as the party’s conclusion. Is Man on Wire a Christmas movie? Nice Lady Hive, rise up.

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Get cozy for Kate and Jacqueline’s cold (and wintry) reading of “‘Twas the Night Before Christmas.” aka “A Visit from St. Nicholas.” Lock this in like peppermint, because it a likely to be a most merry new hag tradition.

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