Kate and Jacqueline are back in the studio, lost in each other’s live gaze. Jacqueline texted a sweet late-night text professing her love for their "hysterical friendship." The two dive into the wine industry's decline, their shared fascination with the paranormal, the story of the "true Annabelle" doll, and play psychic games: Jacqueline pushes "extreme speed channeling" to amp up their telepathic connection. Kate bemoans the dreaded "horseshoe" imprint left on your thighs from too much time on the can.

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The hosts are in the swing of the new show and perhaps it’s evidenced by discussions of comfort topics: infrared saunas and Adhd and wanting top tier gear on day 2 of a hobby … in order to make beach grilling dreams a part of life. Fountain pens. Delta lounges and Airbnb late night entry - concerns for a couple of entertainers who work the road. To defend one’s home against damning adjectives. The effects of the camera on hags. To become earphone bros or not. Recording with eyes closed. What medium are we working with here?

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The very first episode of Berlant and Novak, one week after Poog’s untimely demise. A feat by all, hosts and hags alike. The kids got in the car in the middle of the night with little to go on but a dream. A new show, a new world, but it’s the people that make a place home. The excitement of being in person. Staring at each other’s faces, in an elegant void. Yes that was Poog but this is huge. The ego loves to seek but never to find. It was Berlant and Novak the whole time.

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