In this episode of Talking Sleep, host Dr. Seema Khosla welcomes Dr. Greg Burek, a psychiatrist and former Marine, and Dr. Dmitriy Kogan, associate professor of medicine at the Medical College of Wisconsin and program director for the sleep medicine fellowship program, to discuss the unique sleep challenges facing military veterans and first responders.

The conversation explores how military and first responder training fundamentally changes individuals, creating an "adrenaline-focused" mindset that profoundly impacts their relationship with sleep and health. Dr. Burek provides insider insights into the stages of military service and the concept of "sacrifice" as a unifying characteristic among veterans, while explaining why many veterans may minimize or dismiss their service experiences.

The guests introduce the BRAVE program, an innovative initiative designed specifically for military veterans and first responders to address the "invisible wounds of service"—PTSD and TBI—and their complex interactions with sleep disorders. Unlike traditional VA programs, BRAVE takes a specialized approach to understanding how military culture and experiences create unique sleep medicine challenges.

The discussion covers critical clinical topics including insomnia management in veterans, the frequent use of clonidine as a treatment option, REM behavior disorder presentations that may differ from civilian populations, and the intricate relationships between PTSD, TBI, sleep-disordered breathing, and nightmare disorders. The experts address whether these sleep disturbances stem from combat trauma, brain injury, or the military experience itself.

This episode provides essential insights for healthcare providers treating veterans, including practical approaches to asking about TBI history, understanding military culture's impact on patient care, and recognizing when specialized referrals may be beneficial.

Whether you're a sleep medicine practitioner, mental health professional, or healthcare provider serving veteran populations, this episode offers valuable perspectives on culturally competent care for those who have served.

Join us for this enlightening discussion that bridges military culture and sleep medicine to improve care for our veterans and first responders.