So...What Else?

Kaitlin and Scott, Emily and Matt share their couple origin stories in honor of Valentine's Day. It’s v cute. We unpack the Olympic cheater. Lindsey Vonn (is not the Olympic cheater). The human grass during Bad Bunny’s halftime show. Matt turns another year older. We realize we now relate more to the parents of professional athletes than the athletes themselves. Organized sports? Apparently bad now. Parenting content on Instagram is ruining everything. Are Kaitlin and Scott having vasectomy regrets? Happy Thanksgiving!

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The one, the only, Ginna Claire Mason Moffet joins the pod this week. Ginna Claire is a dear friend and actress. You may know her as Glinda from Broadway's Wicked or as a Hallmark movie favorite.

We talk about how her early love of performing shaped the path that led her to Broadway, and what it’s like stepping into such an iconic role. She also shares behind-the-scenes insight from her work in Hallmark films and the realities of balancing a demanding career with real life. Most meaningfully, how she stays grounded, prioritizes connection, and makes intentional space for her marriage in the middle of a full schedule.

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Kaitlin gets reprimanded by a referee. Lindsey Vonn is so old. A new "fan" requests more bare feet on the pod. Scott buys a smart humidifier to heal his cracked lips in the morning. We debate cuss vs. curse vs. swear. Kaitlin’s miraculous dermatologist appointment. RIP Catherine O'Hara...an icon. 

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Hannah and Caroline make their B-Team on-camera debut and recap their harrowing journey to recover Caroline's repossessed (cough...stolen...cough) car. Also, Scott and Kaitlin are on a home redecorating adventure and Caroline is launching a Twitch account.

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Scott ruins Kaitlin’s post Christmas joy by trying to be helpful. Emily thinks she’s gotten “lenient” about her home standards. Kaitlin is on a fluoride-free journey, but probably not for the reasons you think. Scott survives a life-altering procedure while Kaitlin heroically assumes the role of “caretaker” and makes sure everyone knows it. Jag-wire. Kaitlin and Scott narrowly miss a pileup caused by a rogue mattress. Also, why are men treated like delicate children in healthcare? Kaitlin had 3 babies!!

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Kaitlin and Scott chat alone this week and they absolutely, 100%, definitely do not talk about New Year’s resolutions. It’s no secret, Kaitlin hates New Year’s resolutions…she publicly denounces them. So they most definitely do not come up....or do they? Welcome to 2026 SWEople!

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Catherine Renfro is an author, pastor’s wife, mom, and the National Director of Women’s Evangelism at the North American Mission Board. Catherine is the author of Hope, Hurt, and Healing: Experiencing Jesus in the Wake of Suicide, a book born out of profound loss.

Catherine shares the story of losing her brother to suicide and invites us into the aftermath—the grief and the questions she wrestled with. She speaks honestly about questioning God and navigating the long road toward healing.

Catherine has used her story to help others who are walking through similar loss. She walks us through how to better show up for friends and loved ones grieving the death of someone they love. This is a hope-filled conversation for anyone who has experienced lossand carries unanswered questions.

Catherine's Book, Hope, Hurt, and Healing: https://amzn.to/4hQ0jKf

Catherine’s Website: https://www.catherinerenfro.com/

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Follow the Chicola sisters on what should've been a normal evening for concert-going Jonas Brothers fans...but spiraled into a night of wreckless decisions, magical elves, and nearly being mauled by an angry mob.

Godspeed, SWEople.

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Kevan Chandler is an author, speaker, and the voice behind We Carry Kevan and The Hospitality of Need. Kevan lives with muscular atrophy, a rare neuromuscular disease. Through his writing and storytelling he invites people into a countercultural way of seeing need, dependence, and community, not as weakness, but as gift.

Kevan shares his story of growing up with muscular atrophy and how, over time, he’s learned that serving others and being served are not opposites—they’re intertwined. We talk about how our needs can become doorways into deeper relationships, the difference between simply asking for help and intentionally inviting people into our need, and how it’s possible to give and receive at the same time.

This conversation is thoughtful, challenging, and a reminder that vulnerability around our needs can lead to deeper connection with others.

The Hospitality of Need 

We Carry Kevan (Book)

We Carry Kevan Organization

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Matt and Emily return from Disney World, and pick up the flu on the way home. Kaitlin, Emily, and Caroline are moments away from seeing the Jonas Brothers. Emily watches the entirety of the Jonas Brothers yule log. Matt and Emily are attempting Christmas cards for the first time this year. The price stamps has gotten completely out of control.

Christian YouTube videos are convincing children that they’ll shrink if they forget to pray. Kaitlin develops an aggressive case of the hiccups. Jayce’s music class learns to play the “air recorder.” Kaitlin is glowing and beaming on her latest thyroid journey. Everyone goes off on the American healthcare system and the scam that is health insurance. After much deliberation, Kaitlin and Emily decide it's best to not get Botox…maybe.

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