0:00- Intro

            2:30- Balancing lifting with work

            6:15- Early names in the fitness industry

            8:30- Expensive coaching

            12:00- Coaching

            13:30- Newer names in the industry

            17:30- Pete Rubish’s PED history

            20:00- Blood work analyses

            20:50- Natty or not videos

            23:45- Natural potential

            25:00- Liver King

            29:15- TRT clinics

            34:20- Are Geoffrey Verity Schofield and Alpha Destiny special?

            42:00- Why can’t people be consistent with nutrition?

            46:30- Natural potential

            57:30- Meeting people from the industry

            59:45- Science based pursuits

            1:07:00- Training to failure on difference exercises

            1:09:00- Mike Israetel vs Lyle McDonald