The episode opens with Dan getting candid about the weird emotional math of making a weekly podcast—and creative work in general—when the world feels like it’s perpetually on fire. He talks through the balancing act: staying engaged, staying human, and still showing up to do the job without pretending everything’s fine.

From there, Dan shifts gears to something grounding and familiar: his friend and frequent guest Maynard James Keenan, and his latest venture, a thoughtfully curated coffee club that combines quality beans with the same obsessive attention to detail Maynard brings to everything else he does.

Then it’s on to today’s main event: a wide-ranging, relaxed conversation with Steven Soderbergh. With National Singani Day around the corner, Steven talks about his passion for Bolivia’s national spirit and the story behind his brand, Singani 63—why singani matters, how people should drink it, and why it deserves a bigger place in the global spirits conversation.

Steven also digs into his latest film and television projects, including a documentary he’s producing built around the final interview John Lennon and Yoko Ono ever did together, recorded just one day before Lennon was killed. A haunting, historically significant moment that’s only now being revisited.

To close things out on a lighter note, Dan puts Steven through a game that tests his bullshit detector: guessing whether a series of obscure “holidays” are real or completely made up. Some he nails. Some… not so much.

Heavy thoughts, good drinks, pop culture, history, and a little nonsense. Pretty much the full What We’re Drinking experience.

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