Welcome back to another incredibly powerful episode of The Amberly Lago Show! This conversation is one that truly challenged the way I think about pain, healing, stress, and the body's incredible ability to protect us, even when it doesn't feel that way.

In this episode, I sit down with the one and only Dr. Perry Nickelston, founder of Stop Chasing Pain, creator of the Big Six Lymphatic Mojo system, speaker, educator, and one of the most innovative voices in the world of chronic pain and nervous system healing.

Dr. Perry has spent nearly three decades helping people understand that pain is rarely just about the place that hurts. Instead of only focusing on symptoms, he teaches a completely different approach, one that looks at the body as a connected system and helps people understand the deeper patterns behind chronic pain, inflammation, stress, trauma, and nervous system overload.

In this deeply eye-opening conversation, we talk about the nervous system, the lymphatic system, emotional trauma, hypervigilance, breathing, chronic inflammation, and why so many people stay stuck in cycles of pain and survival mode.

Dr. Perry vulnerably shares his own personal health struggles, the emotional journey that shaped his work, and how unresolved stress and trauma can physically impact the body over time. He explains why the body is always trying to protect us, even when symptoms feel frustrating or exhausting.

We also dive into practical tools that can help calm the nervous system, improve blood flow, support lymphatic drainage, and shift the body out of constant fight-or-flight mode. One of my favorite parts of this episode was hearing how something as simple as changing your breathing patterns can completely shift your physiology and help the body begin to heal.

If you've ever struggled with chronic pain, inflammation, fatigue, stress, brain fog, or feeling like your body is working against you, this episode will give you a completely new perspective on healing and hope.

We Discuss

• Why chronic pain is rarely only about the place that hurts • The meaning behind "Stop Chasing Pain" • How the nervous system and immune system remember trauma • The connection between emotional trauma and physical symptoms • Why the body prioritizes survival over comfort • Hypervigilance, fight-or-flight, and chronic stress patterns • How poor lymphatic flow contributes to inflammation and pain • Reframing pain as protection instead of punishment • The importance of changing the meaning you assign to pain • Simple breathing techniques to calm the nervous system and support healing

Timestamps

00:00 Introduction to Dr. Perry Nickelston 03:15 The origin of Stop Chasing Pain 08:40 How the body stores trauma and stress 14:20 Why chronic pain is different from acute pain 20:05 The nervous system's role in survival and protection 26:40 Hypervigilance and emotional trauma 33:10 The lymphatic system and inflammation 39:45 Reframing pain and changing its meaning 46:20 Why support groups can sometimes keep people stuck 52:00 Breathing techniques to regulate the nervous system 58:10 How healing begins through awareness and regulation

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