In this insightful takeover episode, fractional Director of Operations Ariana Tenine teams up with her strategic partner, Devin Lee, to challenge the common belief that hiring a VA should be your first step in business growth. Drawing from real client experiences, they unpack why hiring without a strategy can waste time, money, and peace of mind. Ariana and Devin walk through the mindset shift from “I need help” to “I need results,” the power of building systems before adding support, and how strategic hires can elevate revenue and reduce overwhelm. Packed with actionable advice, this episode is a must-listen for business owners ready to build teams with intention and clarity.

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0:00 – Jordan introduces guest hosts Ariana Tenine and Devin Lee, and the myth-busting topic: why a VA may not be your first best hire.

2:51 – The leadership mindset shift: asking “what belongs on my plate?” before hiring.

6:40 – Storytime: the mastermind participant who paid her VA more than herself—and why it happened.

12:04 – Ariana’s first strategic hire story and how it led to a long-term partnership with Devon.

16:52 – Why hiring from overwhelm without systems leads to inefficiency and frustration.

21:40 – Client example: replacing a manual payroll process with a streamlined system.

33:18 – The power of strategic support: how systems set your hires up for success and reduce turnover.

44:10 – Final takeaway: you don’t need help doing more—you need help doing less, better.