Dave cooks a deceivingly simple dish that he had years ago, as served by Chef Mark Ladner. Dave relays that this sugar snap pea dish really impacted himself and his future. He also talks seasonality of ingredients, maturing beyond knowing what you can do into deciding what you should do, and modern art.

Listen to our podcast episode with Mark Ladner: https://www.theringer.com/podcasts/the-dave-chang-show/2025/10/02/innovation-in-tradition-and-a-pre-reopening-diaries-with-mark-ladner
Learn more about Babbo: https://babbonyc.com/
Learn more about Craft: https://www.craftrestaurant.com/
Watch DamNation: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3345206/
Learn more about Momofuku Noodle Bar: https://www.momofukunoodlebar.com/
Listen to ‘Kid A’ by Radiohead: https://open.spotify.com/album/6GjwtEZcfenmOf6l18N7T7?si=L2ELnIaUQ1ydMAeKPMkCkQ
Listen to ‘Blonde on Blonde’ by Bob Dylan: https://open.spotify.com/album/4NP1rhnsPdYpnyJP0p0k0L?si=6jz9XRsoT72plusIf7tXPA

Host: Dave Chang

Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer

Majordomo Media Coordinator: Molly O’Keeffe 

Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino

Additional Crew: Jake Loskutoff

Editor: Stefano Sanchez

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