Kreena Dhiman's story has more twists and turns than Emma's wonky fallopian tubes: having survived cancer and heart failure, she embarked on a surrogacy journey, and - well, we won't give away the ending. She joins us to tell us her jourrrrney, and what happens when everything goes more right than could possibly imagine.

Meanwhile, agony aunt Liz gives advice to someone who needs advice on how to keep going.

Kreena's podcast is called The Intended Parent and it's available wherever you get your podcasts.

Swears throughout.

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