The Adoption Roadmap Podcast

The Adoption Roadmap Podcast

By Rebecca GruenspanParentingKids & Family
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The Adoption Roadmap Podcast episodes

  • Ep. #124: "Who you are here to be." With Michelle Madrid

    In this episode of the Adoption Roadmap podcast, Michelle Madrid discusses the complexities of adoption, focusing on identity, the significance of names, and the emotional challenges faced by adoptees. She emphasizes the importance of openness in conversations about adoption, the pain points that adoptees experience, and the need for adoptive parents to create a safe space for their children to explore their identities. The discussion also touches on the concept of ambiguous loss and the importance of recognizing and addressing the grief that comes with adoption. In this conversation, the speakers explore the complexities of adoption, including the emotional challenges faced by adoptees, the importance of openness in adoptive families, and the healing journey that comes with understanding one's identity. They discuss the intersections of adoption-related grief and other family traumas, the significance of using metaphors like quilts to describe family dynamics, and the resources available for both adoptees and adoptive parents. The dialogue emphasizes the need for compassion, understanding, and the transformative power of forgiveness in the adoption experience.

    Important Links

    RG Adoption Consulting

    • Website → https://rgadoptionconsulting.com

    • Book a 30-Minute Consult → https://rgadoptionconsulting.com/contact

    Our Chosen Child

    • Use code ROADMAP for $100 off the Social Media Plan + Post Program.

    → https://ourchosenchild.com

    Michelle Madrid

    • Website → https://themichellemadrid.com/

    • ⁠Instagram⁠

    • Unboxed, Unburdened, Unstoppable Podcast→ https://themichellemadrid.com/podcast

    • Book: "Let Us Be Greater" → https://themichellemadrid.com/book


    Chapters

    00:00 Navigating Adoption and Identity

    02:53 The Importance of Names in Adoption

    06:12 Understanding the Adoptee's Perspective

    09:04 Pain Points of Adoptees

    12:11 The Journey of Trust and Self-Acceptance

    15:05 The Role of Openness in Adoption

    17:54 Ambiguous Loss and Grief in Adoption

    26:44 Listening to the Wind: Embracing Adoption Stories

    27:58 Intersections of Grief: Adoption and Family Trauma

    35:42 The Journey of Adoption: From Pain to Healing

    38:05 The Quilt Metaphor: Redefining Family for Adoptees

    41:16 Finding Your Voice: Resources and Support for Adoptees

    44:54 Advice for Adoptive Parents: Openness and Understanding

    Tune in to The Adoption Roadmap Podcast every Wednesday. If you like what you hear, I'd appreciate a follow and 5-star rating & review! THANK YOU!

    For questions about adoption, episode suggestions or to appear as a guest on The Adoption Roadmap Podcast, email⁠⁠⁠⁠ [email protected]⁠⁠⁠

    51 min
  • Ep. #123: Identity Before Adoption, with Michelle Madrid

    In this episode of the Adoption Roadmap Podcast, guest Michelle Madrid delves into the complexities of identity, healing, and acceptance in the adoption journey. Michelle shares her personal experiences as an international adoptee and the importance of reconnecting with one's 'first me.' The conversation explores various healing modalities, the significance of supporting adoptees in their journeys, and the impact of reunion with birth families. Michelle emphasizes the importance of embracing ancestral connections and the ongoing journey of self-discovery and acceptance.


    Important Links

    RG Adoption Consulting

    • Website → https://rgadoptionconsulting.com

    • Book a 30-Minute Consult → https://rgadoptionconsulting.com/contact

    Our Chosen Child

    • Use code ROADMAP for $100 off the Social Media Plan + Post Program.→ https://ourchosenchild.com

    Michelle Madrid

    • Website → https://themichellemadrid.com/

    • Instagram

    • Unboxed, Unburdened, Unstoppable Podcast

    → https://themichellemadrid.com/podcast

    • Book: "Let Us Be Greater" → https://themichellemadrid.com/book


    Chapters

    00:00 Navigating Identity and Acceptance

    09:11 Reconnecting with the First Me

    14:34 Exploring Healing Modalities

    22:12 Supporting Adoptees in Their Journey

    27:01 The Impact of Reunion and Healing

    39:05 Embracing Ancestral Connections


    Tune in to The Adoption Roadmap Podcast every Wednesday. If you like what you hear, I'd appreciate a follow and 5-star rating & review! THANK YOU!

    For questions about adoption, episode suggestions or to appear as a guest on The Adoption Roadmap Podcast, email⁠⁠⁠⁠ [email protected]⁠⁠⁠



    46 min
  • Ep. #122: Understanding Adoption's Impact on Learning with Dr. Max Weinberg

    In this episode, Dr. Max Weinberg discusses the seven core issues of adoption and their impact on children in school settings. He emphasizes the importance of creating adoption-affirming classrooms and the role of teachers in fostering a sense of belonging for adopted children. The conversation also touches on the challenges of disclosure and advocacy for parents navigating the school system, highlighting the need for supportive relationships between families and educators. In this conversation, the speakers explore the multifaceted experience of adoption, emphasizing the importance of community support, the joys and challenges of parenting through adoption, and the need for trauma-informed education in schools. They discuss the significance of building connections within communities, the surprising joys that come from parenting adopted children, and the complexities of navigating trauma in educational settings. The conversation also highlights the domains of belonging for adopted children and offers valuable advice for adoptive parents, ultimately framing adoption as a journey filled with love, resilience, and growth.


    Important Links

    RG Adoption Consulting

    → https://rgadoptionconsulting.com

    Book a 30-Minute Call with our an Adoptive Parent on our Team

    → https://rgadoptionconsulting.com/contact

    Solace Gift Boxes

    → https://adoptsolace.com

    Dr. Max Weinberg

    → Belonging Education → https://www.belonging.education/

    → IG → https://www.instagram.com/belongingeducation/

    → ⁠Strengthening School Belongingness for Adopted/Looked After Students


    Chapters

    00:00 Understanding the Seven Core Issues of Adoption

    07:57 Creating Adoption-Affirming Classrooms

    18:01 Navigating Disclosure and Advocacy in Schools

    24:37 Building Community Support for Adoptive Families

    27:44 The Surprising Joys of Parenting Through Adoption

    30:45 Navigating Trauma-Informed Education

    34:42 Domains of School Belonging for Adopted Children

    40:09 Advice for Adoptive Parents

    45:20 The Complexity and Privilege of Adoption


    Tune in to The Adoption Roadmap Podcast every Wednesday. If you like what you hear, I'd appreciate a follow and 5-star rating & review! THANK YOU!

    For questions about adoption, episode suggestions or to appear as a guest on The Adoption Roadmap Podcast, email⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠

    48 min
  • Ep. #121: Creating Inclusive Classrooms for Adopted Children with Max Weinberg

    In this episode of the Adoption Roadmap Podcast, Dr. Max Weinberg discusses the importance of belonging in educational settings, particularly for adopted children. He shares insights from his personal experiences as a white father raising Black children and emphasizes the need for inclusive, trauma-informed classrooms. The conversation explores the challenges faced by students who feel marginalized and the role of educators in fostering a sense of community and care. Dr. Weinberg advocates for a shift in educational practices to better support diverse learners and highlights the significance of building relationships between students and teachers.


    Important Links

    RG Adoption Consulting

    → https://rgadoptionconsulting.com

    Book a 30-Minute Call with our an Adoptive Parent on our Team

    → https://rgadoptionconsulting.com/contact

    Sweet Peach Tree

    → https://sweetpeachtree.com — use code ROADMAP10 for 10% off

    Dr. Max Weinberg

    → Belonging Education → https://www.belonging.education/

    → IG → https://www.instagram.com/belongingeducation/

    → Strengthening School Belongingness for Adopted/Looked After Students


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Dr. Max Weinberg and His Work

    03:50 Understanding Belonging in Education

    08:05 The Importance of Welcoming Environments

    10:05 Creating a Community of Care

    15:17 In Loco Parentis: The Role of Educators

    22:21 Personal Experiences Shaping Perspectives on Equity

    28:50 The Complexity of Homework and Relationships

    31:09 Understanding Learning Differences in Adopted Children

    39:41 Building Student Agency and Connection to the World


    Tune in to The Adoption Roadmap Podcast every Wednesday. If you like what you hear, I'd appreciate a follow and 5-star rating & review! THANK YOU!

    For questions about adoption, episode suggestions or to appear as a guest on The Adoption Roadmap Podcast, email⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠



    46 min
  • Ep. #120: Open Adoption is Hard but Stay True to Your Word, with Sydney Curtin

    In this episode of the Adoption Roadmap Podcast, the Rebecca Gruenspan and Birth Mother, Sydney Curtin delve into the complexities of adoption, addressing common myths and emotional realities faced by both adoptive and birth parents. They discuss the importance of open communication, the emotional impact of adoption on children, and the need for clear agreements in open adoption scenarios. The conversation emphasizes the necessity of understanding the emotional and psychological aspects of adoption, as well as preparing for unexpected situations that may arise.

    Important Links

    RG Adoption Consulting

    • Website → https://rgadoptionconsulting.com

    • Book a 30-Minute Consult → https://rgadoptionconsulting.com/contact

    Sydney Curtin

    • Website → https://www.coachcurtin.com/

    • Instagram

    • Our Chosen Child - Use code ROADMAP for $100 off the Social Media Plan + Post Program.→ https://ourchosenchild.com


    Chapters


    00:00 Introduction to Adoption Roadmap Podcast

    01:17 Understanding Adoption Myths and Realities

    03:49 The Emotional Impact of Adoption on Children

    07:18 Navigating Open Adoption Agreements

    11:36 The Importance of Communication in Adoption

    17:22 Preparing for Unexpected Scenarios in Adoption

    18:47 Navigating Open Communication in Adoption

    21:14 The Impact of Adoption on Identity

    25:32 Coaching Women Through Trauma

    28:33 Radical Acceptance in Adoption

    32:26 Advice for Birth Moms Considering Adoption

    33:58 Courageous Considerations: A Resource for Adoption


    Tune in to The Adoption Roadmap Podcast every Wednesday. If you like what you hear, I'd appreciate a follow and 5-star rating & review! THANK YOU!

    For questions about adoption, episode suggestions or to appear as a guest on The Adoption Roadmap Podcast, email⁠⁠⁠⁠ [email protected]⁠⁠⁠

    39 min
  • Ep. #119: What Happens When an Open Adoption Falls Apart with Sydney Curtin

    In this episode of The Adoption Roadmap Podcast, Rebecca Gruenspan—adoptive parent, consultant, and founder of RG Adoption Consulting—sits down with Sydney Curtin, a birth mother, life coach, speaker, and author of Courageous Considerations: A Guide to Open Adoption, for a raw and deeply honest conversation.

    In Part 1, Sydney shares her personal adoption story—one marked by coercion, broken promises, and profound loss. After placing her daughter into what was promised to be an open adoption, Sydney describes how contact slowly diminished, boundaries were repeatedly shifted, and eventually her daughter was moved overseas, dramatically limiting their relationship. Through her lived experience, Sydney sheds light on how power imbalances, lack of informed consent, and unsupported openness agreements can leave birth mothers—and children—bearing long-term emotional consequences.

    This first part centers on the human cost of adoption when integrity breaks down. Sydney’s story challenges listeners to reconsider what openness truly requires, how promises in adoption impact a child’s identity, and why adoption must be approached as a lifelong relationship rather than a transaction. Part 1 invites hopeful and adoptive parents alike to sit with discomfort, listen closely, and reflect on the responsibility that comes with saying “yes” to adoption.


    Important Links

    RG Adoption Consulting

    • Website → https://rgadoptionconsulting.com

    • Book a 30-Minute Consult → https://rgadoptionconsulting.com/contact

    Sydney Curtin

    • Website → https://www.coachcurtin.com/

    • Instagram

    • Solace Gift Boxes → AdoptSolace.com


    Chapters

    00:00 – Sponsor Message
    01:55 – Episode Introduction
    02:10 – “This Isn’t About Intention, It’s About Integrity”
    03:08 – Coercion and Family Pressure
    04:57 – What She Asked for in an Open Adoption
    06:36 – Being Told She Was Asking Too Much
    08:30 – What the Open Adoption Agreement Actually Said
    09:44 – The Adoption Was Finalized Without Her
    10:58 – Her Daughter Was Moved to France
    12:15 – Openness Reduced and Mediation Requested
    14:30 – The Agreement Is Nullified
    15:40 – Adoption Compared to a Marriage
    16:24 – Profit, Power, and the Role of Agencies
    17:04 – Post-Placement Support and Counseling
    18:29 – Legal Rights and PACA Agreements
    20:38 – When the Relationship Began to Break Down
    22:10 – Losing Her Daughter More Than Once
    23:45 – How She Survived the Early Days After Placement
    25:56 – A Birthday Call That Changed Everything
    26:45 – The Impact on Siblings
    27:30 – End of Part 1 / Tease for Part 2


    Tune in to The Adoption Roadmap Podcast every Wednesday. If you like what you hear, I'd appreciate a follow and 5-star rating & review! THANK YOU!

    For questions about adoption, episode suggestions or to appear as a guest on The Adoption Roadmap Podcast, email⁠⁠⁠⁠ [email protected]⁠⁠⁠


    30 min
  • Ep. #118: The Role of Attorneys in Adoption with Genie Gillespie Pt. II

    In this episode of the Adoption Roadmap Podcast, adoption attorney Genie Gillespie discusses critical aspects of the adoption process, including the importance of putative father registries, the necessity of legal representation, navigating birth mother expenses, and identifying red flags in independent matches. The conversation emphasizes the need for adoptive parents to be informed and proactive in their journey, ensuring they understand their rights and responsibilities while securing the best outcomes for all parties involved. In this conversation, the speakers delve into the complexities of adoption, focusing on the financial aspects related to birth parent expenses, the legalities involved in the adoption process, and the critical role of attorneys. They also discuss the importance of understanding legislative changes that could impact adoption, particularly the adoption tax credit, and offer valuable advice for prospective adoptive parents, emphasizing patience and transparency in the adoption journey.


    Important Links

    RG Adoption Consulting• Website → https://rgadoptionconsulting.com

    • Book a 30-Minute Consult → https://rgadoptionconsulting.com/contact

    Genie Miller Gillespie, Esq.

    • Website → https://illinoisadoptionlawyer.com/

    Academy of Adoption & Assisted Reproduction Attorneys (AAAA / Quad A)• Website → https://adoptionart.org

    Our Chosen Child - Use code ROADMAP for $100 off the Social Media Plan + Post Program.→ https://ourchosenchild.com


    Chapters

    00:00 Understanding Putative Father Registries

    07:30 The Role of Attorneys in Adoption

    15:32 Navigating Birth Mother Expenses

    23:50 Red Flags in Independent Matches

    23:55 Navigating Birth Parent Expenses

    26:02 Understanding Adoption Legalities

    29:04 The Role of Attorneys in Adoption

    33:52 Legislative Changes Impacting Adoption

    37:51 Advice for Adoptive Parents


    Tune in to The Adoption Roadmap Podcast every Wednesday. If you like what you hear, I'd appreciate a follow and 5-star rating & review! THANK YOU!

    For questions about adoption, episode suggestions or to appear as a guest on The Adoption Roadmap Podcast, email⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠




    44 min
  • Ep. #117: What Actually Makes an Adoption ‘High Risk’? with Genie Gillespie

    In this episode of The Adoption Roadmap Podcast, Rebecca Gruenspan sits down with Genie Miller Gillespie, one of the most respected adoption attorneys in the country, for a clear, grounded conversation about the legal realities of adoption—without the fear-mongering.

    With more than 30 years of experience in adoption, guardianship, and reproductive law, Genie breaks down what hopeful adoptive parents actually need to know about openness, contested adoptions, and legal risk. Together, Rebecca and Jeannie unpack common myths fueled by “Lifetime movie” narratives and replace them with real-world context, clarity, and reassurance.


    Important Links

    Solace Gift Boxes

    → https://adoptsolace.com


    RG Adoption Consulting• Website → https://rgadoptionconsulting.com• Book a 30-Minute Consult → https://rgadoptionconsulting.com/contact


    Genie Miller Gillespie, Esq.

    • Website → https://illinoisadoptionlawyer.com/

    Academy of Adoption & Assisted Reproduction Attorneys (AAAA / Quad A)• Website → https://adoptionart.org


    Chapters

    00:00 Navigating the Adoption Landscape

    02:35 The Evolution of Openness in Adoption

    06:03 Understanding Legal Risks in Adoption

    15:53 The Complexities of Fatherhood in Adoption

    21:33 Defining Legal Relationships in Adoption


    Tune in to The Adoption Roadmap Podcast every Wednesday. If you like what you hear, I'd appreciate a follow and 5-star rating & review! THANK YOU!

    For questions about adoption, episode suggestions or to appear as a guest on The Adoption Roadmap Podcast, email⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠

    25 min
  • Ep #116: The Unbreakable Bond of Birth Mothers with Leah Outten & Raquel McCloud

    In this episode of the Adoption Roadmap Podcast, Leah Outten and Raquel McCloud share their profound experiences as birth mothers, discussing the emotional complexities of adoption, resilience, and the impact of their viral reunion video. They explore themes of personal growth, the challenges of navigating open adoption, and the importance of being a safe space for their children. The conversation delves into the intricacies of family dynamics, the significance of identity, and the journey of breaking generational cycles. In this conversation, the speakers delve into the complexities of adoption, focusing on the relationships between birth mothers, adoptive parents, and children. They discuss the importance of open communication, the need for education about birth mothers, and the impact of trauma on children. The speakers also highlight the significance of storytelling in the adoption journey and introduce the Ampersand Initiative, which aims to build community and resilience among those affected by adoption.


    Important Links

    Our Chosen Child - Use code ROADMAP for $100 off the Social Media Plan + Post Program.→ https://ourchosenchild.com

    RG Adoption Consulting

    • Website → https://rgadoptionconsulting.com• Book a 30-Minute Consult → https://rgadoptionconsulting.com/contact

    The Ampersand Initiative

    • Website → https://theampersandinitiative.org• Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/theampersandinitiative

    Raquel McCloud

    • Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/mccloudlife/?__pwa=1

    Leah Outten

    • Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/leahoutten/?__pwa=1


    Chapters


    00:00 Resilience Through Pain

    06:22 Breaking Cycles and Thriving

    11:31 The Impact of Viral Moments

    16:48 Navigating Open Adoption Dynamics

    23:30 The Complexities of Reunion and Parenting

    31:37 Navigating College Transitions and Relationships

    34:05 Understanding Birth Mothers: Misconceptions and Realities

    40:03 Supporting Children Through Trauma

    42:34 The Power of Storytelling in Adoption

    46:47 The Ampersand Initiative: Building Community and Resilience


    Tune in to The Adoption Roadmap Podcast every Wednesday. If you like what you hear, I'd appreciate a follow and 5-star rating & review! THANK YOU!

    For questions about adoption, episode suggestions or to appear as a guest on The Adoption Roadmap Podcast, email⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠

    1 hr 1 min
  • Ep. #115: Resilience, Trauma, and Truth: Birth Moms Share Their Adoption Journeys with Raquel McCloud & Leah Outten

    In this episode of the Adoption Roadmap Podcast, Guests Leah Outten and Raquel McCloud share their deeply personal stories as birth mothers navigating the complexities of adoption. They discuss their unique experiences, the challenges they faced, and the support systems that helped them through their journeys. The conversation highlights the importance of resilience, the impact of isolation, and the role of adoption agencies in shaping their paths. Leah and Raquel also emphasize the need for open communication and understanding in the adoption process, advocating for the voices of birth mothers to be heard and respected.


    Important Links

    Our Chosen Child - Use code ROADMAP for $100 off the Social Media Plan + Post Program.→ https://ourchosenchild.com

    RG Adoption Consulting

    • Website → https://rgadoptionconsulting.com• Book a 30-Minute Consult → https://rgadoptionconsulting.com/contact

    The Ampersand Initiative

    • Website → https://theampersandinitiative.org• Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/theampersandinitiative

    Raquel McCloud

    • Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/mccloudlife/?__pwa=1

    Leah Outten

    • Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/leahoutten/?__pwa=1


    Chapters


    00:00 Introduction to the Adoption Journey

    03:09 Personal Stories of Resilience

    05:59 Navigating Adoption Decisions

    09:02 Support Systems in Adoption

    12:01 The Impact of Isolation

    14:59 Emancipation and Independence

    17:47 The Role of Agencies in Adoption

    21:13 Resilience Born from Pain

    24:13 Conclusion and Teaser for Next Episode


    Tune in to The Adoption Roadmap Podcast every Wednesday. If you like what you hear, I'd appreciate a follow and 5-star rating & review! THANK YOU!

    For questions about adoption, episode suggestions or to appear as a guest on The Adoption Roadmap Podcast, email⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠






    43 min

About The Adoption Roadmap Podcast

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Your dream is to become a mom. My dream is to help you get there. I am Rebecca Gruenspan, a single mom through domestic adoption and an adoption consultant for over a decade. I’ll be your guide, along…

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