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This is Week 1 of 6 in the Back to School Foundations replay series. While I'm in Portland helping my daughter move into her first house, I'm revisiting six episodes I think will help most as you head back to school. New season starts Tuesday, September 29th, with five weeks on AAC for AAC Awareness Month. So much of what goes wrong in September is really about something that was never put in place in August. Three things. That's it. Here's what they are. I'm starting this series at the very beginning, with the framework I built to answer the question I get more than any other: where do I even start? The answer is not with the IEP goals. It's with regulate, connect, and routines. Those are the three things that have to be in place before teaching begins, and teach is the fourth pillar that everything else holds up. We all want to jump straight to teach. Sit at the table, trace the name, sort the colors. But a child who isn't regulated can't take in what you're offering, and a child who doesn't trust you yet has no reason to try. The framework is fluid. You'll move back and forth between all four pillars every day, student by student. A child can be doing beautifully in a teaching activity and be dysregulated two minutes later, and at that point we set our agenda aside and go back to what we know helps that child. That's not a detour from the work. That is the work. We'll talk about: Why regulation has to come before expectation, and what interoception has to do with it How to build connection with children you don't know yet, without going into teacher mode How predictable routines lower anxiety and grow independence The four pillars of the Autism Little Learners Framework: Regulate, Connect, Routines, Teach In This Episode, You'll Learn: Why a dysregulated child is not in a position to take in new learning Why true self-regulation doesn't develop until well past early childhood, and what to do instead What "teacher mode" sounds like, and why the questions get in the way How to join a child's play without taking it over or directing it Why speaking is not the only way to communicate, and what multimodal communication looks like Key Takeaways: Regulation before expectation. If a child isn't regulated, the lesson isn't landing. Co-regulation is the starting point at the early childhood level, not self-regulation. You have to reach the child before you can teach the child. No significant learning takes place without a significant relationship. Speaking is not the only way to communicate. Every child is already communicating. Predictable routines reduce anxiety and build independence. The framework is fluid. You'll move back and forth between all four pillars every single day. Try This: Send the Child Interest Survey home this week and use what comes back Join one child in their favorite activity without asking a single question Watch and copy what a child is doing instead of directing the play Ask your OT for one sensory idea for one specific child Teach a calming sequence with a visual cue before you need it Look at one child's visual schedule and check the length and the symbol type against what that child actually understands Pick one daily routine and make a visual sequence for it Related Resources & Links: ❤️ Child Interest Survey (free) ❤️ Free Visual Support Starter Set ❤️ Autism Little Learners Membership "Children learn best when they like their teacher and when they think their teacher likes them." Gordon Neufeld

Building a positive connection with autistic students is one of the most important things we can focus on at the beginning of a new school year. That's why I'm making connection the focus of Week 2 of our Back to School Foundations series. There's something about that second week of school, too. The first few days are behind you, the excitement and whirlwind of getting everyone through the door has settled just a little, and you start realizing, I have a whole room full of children I'm still getting to know. And that takes time. For six weeks, I'm revisiting some of the most important conversations from the Autism Little Learners Podcast and bringing them back at the time of year when you may need them most. This week's conversation originally aired way back in August 2023, during the very first year of the podcast, so there's a pretty good chance you haven't heard this one before. And even if you have, I think it's worth coming back to as you get to know a new group of students. Last week, we talked about what needs to be in place before we really begin teaching. This week, we're slowing down and looking more closely at connection. When a new student walks into your classroom, you might already have an IEP, evaluation reports, goals, and plenty of information about what you're supposed to teach. But none of that replaces getting to know the actual child in front of you. In this episode, I'm sharing simple ways to foster a positive connection with your autistic students and why taking time to learn about their interests, preferences, communication, and cues isn't taking time away from teaching. It becomes part of the foundation for everything you'll do together. Because connection isn't something we check off during the first week of school and move on from. It's something we continue building all year long. In This Episode, You'll Learn Why connection deserves our attention before we become too focused on goals and academics Simple ways to begin building trust with a new autistic student Why a child's interests can be an important doorway into connection How following a child's lead helps us learn more about their communication and interaction Why not every interaction needs to become a teaching opportunity How noticing all forms of communication helps us better understand the child in front of us Why respecting a child's communication, including "no," "stop," and "all done," matters How taking time to build a relationship supports learning throughout the school year Key Takeaways Connection isn't separate from teaching. The time we spend getting to know a child gives us information that can make future learning more meaningful and accessible. An IEP tells us about a student, but it doesn't replace knowing them. Notice what makes them smile, what they move toward, what they avoid, and how they communicate. Interests can be a bridge to connection. Instead of always saving a favorite item or activity as a reward, we can join children in something they already enjoy. Not every interaction needs an agenda. Sometimes we can simply play, imitate, notice, laugh, and enjoy being together without immediately turning the moment into a lesson. Communication comes in many forms. Spoken words, AAC, gestures, facial expressions, body movements, sounds, scripts, reaching, moving toward something, and moving away can all communicate important information. Honoring communication builds trust. When children learn that the adults around them notice and respond to what they're communicating, we're strengthening the relationship. Connection takes time. It isn't a first-week-of-school activity. It's something we continue building and protecting throughout the year. Try This Choose one student you're still getting to know and spend some time simply observing what they enjoy. Notice what they move toward when they have a choice and what they move away from. Join them in something they already love without adding a demand or immediately turning it into a lesson. Look for communication you may have previously missed, including gestures, movement, sounds, AAC, or actions. At the end of the day, instead of only asking, "What did I teach today?" ask yourself, "What did I learn about this child today?" Resources & Links Back to School Foundations Series — This is Week 2 of our six-part series. Start with Episode #188 and follow along as we build from the foundations into connection, regulation, visual supports, transitions, and understanding behavior as communication. Keep Learning — Read the companion blog post about building positive connections with autistic students. New to neurodiversity-affirming language? Read Why We Say "Autistic Child": A Simple Guide to Neurodiversity-Affirming Language. Next Week — We'll continue the Back to School Foundations series with regulation and what it can look like to support it in the classroom.

Supporting regulation in the classroom starts with understanding what an autistic child's nervous system needs before we focus on expectations, participation, or learning. That's why regulation is the focus of Week 3 of our Back to School Foundations series. By early September, you've probably moved past those first days of school when everyone is learning names, exploring the classroom, and figuring each other out. Your routines are starting to take shape, expectations are increasing, and you may also be seeing more dysregulation show up. This is often when we start wondering, What can I do to help this child participate? How do I make circle time easier? Why are transitions suddenly so hard? What changed? Before we add another expectation, I want us to look at regulation. For six weeks, I'm revisiting some of the most important conversations from the Autism Little Learners Podcast and bringing them back when you may need them most. This week's conversation originally aired in early 2025, and it focuses on practical ways we can support emotional and sensory regulation throughout the classroom day. We'll talk about the classroom environment, sensory needs, calming spaces, visual supports, sensory tools, and the important role we play in co-regulation. Most importantly, we'll talk about why regulation isn't something we work on only after a child becomes overwhelmed. When we understand an individual child's sensory needs and build supportive strategies throughout their day, we're creating an environment where they have greater access to communication, participation, connection, and learning. In This Episode, You'll Learn Why the classroom environment can have such a big impact on regulation How reducing sensory overload can support autistic children throughout their day Why calming corners can offer a supportive place for children to manage sensory input and emotions How visual supports can provide information, support communication, and reduce uncertainty Ways sensory tools can help children get the sensory input their bodies need Why co-regulation with a trusted adult is so important for young children How sensory needs can look very different from one child to another Why regulation supports should be woven throughout the day rather than saved for moments of dysregulation How heavy work activities can support children who are seeking more sensory input Why helping young autistic children develop regulation skills has benefits that extend far beyond the classroom Key Takeaways Regulation comes before expectation. Before asking how to get a child to participate, sit, transition, or complete an activity, consider what their nervous system may be communicating. The environment matters. Noise, lighting, movement, visual clutter, proximity to other people, and other sensory input can all affect how accessible a classroom feels to an individual child. Regulation looks different for every child. There isn't one sensory tool, calming strategy, or classroom setup that will work for everyone. Understanding the individual child is essential. Co-regulation comes before self-regulation. Young children develop regulation skills with support from calm, responsive adults. Our job isn't simply to tell a child to calm down. We can help them feel safe and supported as they move through those moments. Calming spaces aren't punishment spaces. A calming corner can provide access to sensory tools and a quieter environment when a child needs less input or a place to regulate. Sensory supports shouldn't only appear during a hard moment. Movement, heavy work, sensory tools, visual supports, and regulation opportunities can be intentionally incorporated throughout the day. The goal isn't a perfectly calm child. We're supporting children in understanding and responding to what their bodies need, not teaching them to hide signs of discomfort or dysregulation. Try This Choose one part of your classroom day when dysregulation seems to happen more often and look at the environment before changing the child's behavior. Notice the sensory input around the child. What are they hearing, seeing, touching, or being asked to tolerate? Watch for what an individual child naturally does to regulate. Do they seek movement, pressure, quiet, repetition, or less sensory input? Think about one regulation support you could make available before the difficult part of the day rather than waiting until the child is overwhelmed. During a hard moment, try shifting from "How do I get them to do this?" to "What might their body need from me right now?" Resources & Links Calming Kit Visuals — Visual supports and tools you can use to create a calming space and support regulation in your classroom. Calming Kit Visuals Visual Support Starter Set — Get started with simple visual supports you can use with young autistic children. Visual Support Starter Set Back to School Foundations Series — This is Week 3 of our six-part series. Start with Episode #188 and follow along as we move through the foundations, connection, regulation, visual supports, transitions, and understanding behavior as communication. New to neurodiversity-affirming language? Read Why We Say "Autistic Child": A Simple Guide to Neurodiversity-Affirming Language.

This episode is back by popular demand—and for good reason. One of the most requested and talked-about conversations on The Autism Little Learners Podcast, this replay dives into Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) with licensed psychologist Dr. Taylor Day. In this episode, we explore PDA as a profile within autism, with a strong focus on nervous system differences, autonomy, and the fight-or-flight response. Dr. Tay shares why traditional behavior-based approaches often miss the mark for children with PDA and offers compassionate, practical insights for parents and educators who want to support children in ways that truly work. If you're navigating intense demand avoidance, burnout, or power struggles—or supporting a child who needs a more flexible, relationship-based approach—this conversation is a must-listen (or re-listen). 🎥 Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/htWAXEnkyzE?si=s9tYLCnIbdt4LDOy 📖 Read the blog here: https://autismlittlelearners.com/pathological-demand-avoidance/ Links: Dr. Tay's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.dr.tay/ Dr. Tay's Website: https://drtaylorday.com Evolve Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolve-with-dr-tay-the-podcast-for-parents-of-autistic-kids/id1659784037 Takeaways PDA is not a formal diagnosis, but a commonly discussed profile within autism that centers on nervous system differences. A child's behavior often reflects a stress response, not intentional defiance. For children with PDA, autonomy is a need, not a preference. Traditional compliance-based parenting and teaching approaches often escalate challenges rather than reduce them. Understanding fight, flight, freeze, and fawn responses helps adults respond with compassion instead of control. Reducing demands can be supportive when paired with strong relationships and thoughtful boundaries. Collaboration between parents, educators, and providers leads to more consistent and effective support. Seeing the human behind the behavior shifts how we problem-solve and connect. Teaching autonomy, flexibility, and regulation skills supports long-term well-being. Offering meaningful choices can increase engagement and reduce stress. Prioritizing mastery and understanding over repetition helps children feel safe and successful. Parents are experts on their children and their insights matter. Educational systems work best when they adapt to children—not the other way around. Connection, trust, and felt safety are foundational for learning and growth. You may also be interested in these supports: Visual Support Starter Set Visual Supports Facebook Group Autism Little Learners on Instagram Autism Little Learners on Facebook

The one who melts down at the smallest request, who seems to dig in the moment you say "do this."...you know this child. In this episode I sit down with Casey Ehrlich, PhD — social scientist, founder of At Peace Parents, and a leader in the first peer-reviewed PDA research in the United States — to talk about PDA: what it is, why it's a nervous system response rather than defiance, and what actually helps. PDA isn't defiance. It's a survival-level drive for autonomy — and once you see that, you respond to the child in front of you completely differently. PDA most often stands for pathological demand avoidance, but many autistic people prefer pervasive (or persistent) drive for autonomy — because autonomy is right at the root of what activates the nervous system. Casey defines it as a survival drive for autonomy and equality that can override other survival instincts like eating, sleeping, toileting, and even safety. We talk through what PDA actually looks like in young children, why behavior that reads as oppositional or manipulative is so often a nervous-system response, and the practical, compassionate shifts that help a dysregulated child feel safe again — in the classroom and at home. We'll talk about: ● what PDA stands for — and why many autistic people prefer "pervasive drive for autonomy" ● why demand avoidance is a nervous system response, not manipulation or defiance ● the five characteristics Casey looks for, including equalizing behavior ● why we flip the order for PDA kids: nervous system and autonomy first ● the difference between independence and autonomy ● real strategies: signals of safety, declarative language, and rhythms over routines In This Episode, You'll Learn • What PDA is, and why "pervasive or persistent drive for autonomy" may describe it better • How a survival drive for autonomy can override eating, sleeping, toileting, and safety • Why "equalizing behavior" can look oppositional but is actually a nervous-system response • How to read the early signals that a child is moving toward fight-or-flight • Why reducing spoken language and using declarative language lowers perceived demands • How to send signals of safety with your face, tone, and body — and why getting low matters • What the "four S's" — safe nervous system, screens, sensory/novelty, special interest — reveal about regulation • Why repair and felt safety, not teaching, are the moves in the hard moment Key Takeaways • PDA is a nervous system response, not defiance or manipulation • Autonomy is at the root — a perceived loss of autonomy activates the survival brain • For PDA kids, think nervous system and autonomy first, then sensory, executive function, and communication • Independence is doing a task alone; autonomy is having a genuine say in what happens • Signals of safety often matter more than words • Declarative language lowers the demand a child perceives • Think rhythms, not rigid routines — even a chosen routine can start to feel like lost autonomy • Compassion over compliance — always Try This • Pause and ask whether a behavior might be a nervous-system response to a perceived demand • Lower the demand: swap questions and directions for declarative, observational statements • Get low to the child's level and soften your face, tone, and pace • Offer real autonomy — a genuine say, not just a choice between two adult-chosen options • Reduce spoken language during escalation and wait for the child to re-engage • Build in rhythms instead of rigid routines • In the hard moment, focus on repair and felt safety, not on teaching the lesson Related Resources & Links 💚 Casey Ehrlich — At Peace Parents (free PDA masterclass) 💚 At Peace Parents Podcast 💚 The Declarative Language Handbook by Linda K. Murphy 💚 Free Visual Support Starter Set 💚 Autism Little Learners Membership When we stop asking "How do I get this child to comply?" and start asking "What is this child's nervous system telling me?" everything changes. PDA kids aren't giving us a hard time — they're having a hard time. And when we lead with autonomy, safety, and compassion, we give them what they actually need to come back to calm and connection.
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