The Body Trust® Podcast

CW: Sexual violence and trafficking. This episode includes discussion of sexual violence, including human trafficking. Please take gentle care of yourself if you choose to listen - we care about you and how this may impact you.

On this episode of The Body Trust Podcast Hilary and Sirius invite Body Trust provider and therapist Christina Burrell to discuss survivorship. Christina discusses dissociation, compartmentalization, bodily autonomy, and the cultural context of Me Too. Christina describes running a small Body Trust foundations group for queer survivors and emphasizes explicit, consistent invitations that communicate “all of you is welcome here,” noting healing cannot be thought through alone and must connect to collective movement toward “the horizon of love.”

01:28 Christina’s Body Trust journey

06:59 Defining Survivorship

09:23 Reorienting Healing

12:27 Compartmentalization and Safety

17:49 Me Too and Visibility

19:25 From Rage to Action

32:07 From Individual to Collective Change

39:15 How to Support Survivors

RESOURCES

The Foundations of Body Trust : The Body Trust Framework

Reclaiming Body Trust:A Path to Liberation and Healing by Kinavey & Sturtevant

Me, Too International

Unbound: My Story of Liberation and the birth of the Me, Too Movement by Tarana Burke

Survivor Power with Tarana Burke on Becoming the People Podcast with Prentis Hemphill

adrienne marry brown and Sonya Renee Taylor on survivorship in these times
Freedom & Desire Substack by Sirius Bonner

CHRISTINA BOREL

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ANCHORING: Body Trust Practices for Survivors
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On this episode of The Body Trust Podcast, Hilary, Sirius and Dana discuss the intentions behind their free ethical care guidelines for GLP-1 medications. They critique weight-centric healthcare, industry-influenced research, and an “ethics” focus limited to rationing and allocation rather than relational care, informed consent, and “do no harm.” Centering body autonomy, they stress that true consent requires unbiased information and freedom from coercion, including weight stigma and medical gaslighting. They highlight risks such as deaths, weight cycling, and inadequate eating-disorder screening, including concerns about people developing or worsening eating disorders on GLP-1s. They describe practical elements of weight-inclusive care, identify clinical red flags, and encourage patients and providers to use the guidelines to ask better questions while recognizing systemic anti-fat bias cannot be solved by individual weight loss.

RESOURCES

Ethical Care Guidelines for GLP1 Medications by Center for Body Trust

Freedom & Desire Substack by Sirius Bonner

Coaching with Meg Bradbury

Certified Body Trust Provider Directory

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On this episode Hilary, Sirius and Dana welcome Center for Body Trust program coordinator and coach Meg Bradbury to discuss orthorexia. Meg shares  their background and describes growing up with body shaming, prior eating disorder histories, and how “healthy eating” escalated into orthorexia. The hosts unpack the overlap orthorexia has with influencer culture, toxic masculinity, and white-supremacist-coded “purity” narratives, and warn about restrictive medical/naturopathic food advice. Meg underscores the importance of recovery support by way of community, patience and non-linear healing.

02:52 Meg discussing their journey to Body Trust

11:10 Meg shares how their Orthorexia developed and escalates

31:43 The impact of Influencers and Wellness Culture on orthorexia

41:38 Medical Nuance and Restriction Risks

44:37 ED Risks Beyond Size

45:51 Food Advice and Performative Health

01:06:48 MAHA and co-opting body liberation language

01:08:41 How To Start Healing

RESOURCES

How White Nationalists Infiltrated the Wellness Movement

Orthorexia & Diet Culture in the Family (Meg with her daughter Carson)
Healthism: The Desire to be Healthy Gone Wrong

Coaching with Meg Bradbury

Certified Body Trust Provider Directory

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Hosts Dana, Sirius, and Hilary welcome fat activist and researcher Ragen Chastain, author of the Weight and Healthcare Substack and founder of the Dances With Fat blog onto the podcast. Ragen discusses her entry into fat civil rights and healthcare advocacy and describes focusing her work on intersections of weight science, weight stigma, and healthcare practice, arguing that the weight-loss industry and drug companies manipulate healthcare and media with “science” marketing. She outlines how she evaluates studies (funding, conflicts of interest, methodology, dosing, outcomes, and comparisons to existing treatments), critiques GLP-1 claims and secondary-indication narratives, and emphasizes bodily autonomy, collective harm from anti-fat bias, and the necessity of ethical informed consent, including risks, limited long-term outcomes, and denial-of-care pressures.

05:14 Ragen's personal experience with anti-fat bias 

12:09 The GLP-1 Marketing Machine

24:58 The connection between Fen-phen, Purdue and Novo Nordisk

37:15 Ethical Informed Consent

38:38 Why Fatphobia Persists and the diet industry co-opting fat liberation language

58:36  Autonomy, Accountability and Responsibility within Celebrity and Influencer culture

01:06:33 Medical ethics, Informed Consent and Patient Coercion

RESOURCES

Weight & Healthcare Substack Newsletter by Ragen Chastain
Prediabetes: Dubious Diagnosis
Novo Nordisk Report: Building the Market from Scratch (see page 30) 

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On this episode hosts Dana, Sirius, and Hilary discuss GLP-1s, and how they’re showing up in pop culture and politics. They unpack the Super Bowl ads and awkward displays of male power in the media. They critique a New York Times opinion piece about “leaving body positivity” and use it as a jumping off point to discuss the importance of using an intersectional lens to approach body trust. They discuss the rise in GLP-1 related deaths and incidences of scurvy, and announce the release of their ethical care guidelines for folks using GLP-1s.

00:46 Pop culture round up: the Super Bowl 

17:43 Health Nuance And Backlash

21:45 Political Roots Missing in Body Positivity 

28:41 Fat loss does not eradicate oppression

32:53 FDA Warnings And Deaths

55:57 Iran And War Distractions

01:01:23 Introducing our ethical care guidelines

RESOURCES

Ethical Care Guidelines for GLP1 Medications by Center for Body Trust

Instagram Post with Band Names for Junior and Kid Rock

The Split Inside Body Positivity Boils Down to This One Thing

Ethical Care Guidelines and Secondary Uses of GLP-1 Medications

Beyond Body Positivity

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In their first live episode, hosts Dana and Hilary are interviewed by Sirius as they celebrate and reflect on 20 years of Body Trust work. They discuss the evolution of their work and the ongoing refusal of healthcare and public discourse to address diet culture’s harm. They address the current cultural moment—GLP-1 advertising, the “era of emaciation,” the Super Bowl commercials, and connections between beauty standards, desirability, and Epstein’s grooming. They share lessons about relationship, coalition-building, non-linear transformation, and future learning edges including disability justice, food justice, and aging, then take audience questions highlighting aging/disability intersections and community impact.

RESOURCES

Join us March 13th for Desiree Adaway’s Praxis of Liberation 

The Menopause Summit by Center for Body Trust (recording available)

Fat, Pretty, and Soon to be Old: A Makeover for Self & Society by Kimberly Dark

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On the Body Trust Podcast, Hillary, Dana, and Sirius interview Savala Nolan about her book Good Woman: A Reckoning. They discuss the Super Bowl’s heavy presence of GLP-1 ads, Savala’s quick Instagram response as a handhold toward concepts like Health at Every Size and weight neutrality, and the added weight of government-backed messaging (including a Mike Tyson ad sponsored by realfood.gov). They connect diet culture to broader systems that control women’s bodies and voices, including male sexual violence and the challenges of naming harm (referencing Savala’s “Which Men” essay). Savala reads from her opening chapter “Refusal” (“I refuse to be good”) and describes the book as divesting from “good woman” conditioning—being quiet, pleasing, and body-controlling—while rebuilding a fuller, more authentic life. She explains that leaving dieting can make a woman culturally “illegible,” shares a workplace example of pervasive diet-talk, and outlines how midlife dissatisfaction and motherhood catalyzed the book. Savala also describes how she raises her daughter with food autonomy, body respect, and tools to navigate outside messages.

RESOURCES

The Book: Good Woman - A Reckoning* by Savala Nolan

*Most Anticipated Feminist Book of 2026 by Ms. Magazine
Instagram: @savalanolan
Website: savalanolan.com 

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In this rerun of Ep19 Hilary, Dana, and Sirius discuss the nuanced world of fat fashion. From personal experiences with clothing fit and size accessibility to broader discussions on cultural and industry trends, the hosts explore the intersection of body size, fashion, and societal norms. They share stories of navigating clothing availability, the inconsistencies in sizing, and the impact of brands' inclusion practices. The conversation also touches on the changing landscape of fashion inclusivity, the challenges posed by fast fashion, and the complex relationship between body size and self-expression through clothing. The hosts provide recommendations for fat fashion resources and underscore the importance of visibility and representation in the fashion industry.

RESOURCES

Copper Union / Knock Out Plus Size Pop-Up & Fashion Show

SellTradePlus

Big Undies Substack

Visible Mending

Universal Standard

FatCon

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In this rerun of Episode 27, episode hosts Dana, Hilary and Sirius welcome their friend and esteemed guest, Desiree Adaway, a consultant, trainer, coach, and speaker. The conversation centers around Desiree's recent experiences, including her keynote at the BIPOC Eating Disorder Conference, and her ongoing efforts to build resilient, equitable, and inclusive organizations. The episode delves into the complex concept of “polycrisis”, the interconnectivity of global challenges, and the importance of radical imagination as a means of fostering change. Desiree emphasizes moving at the speed of trust, the necessity of communal support, and the role of collective courage in driving social justice. The discussion also highlights the significance of grieving together and cultivating hope as tools of survival and resistance against systemic oppression.

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RESOURCES

The Adaway Group/Desiree Adaway

The Praxis of Liberation

BIPOC Eating Disorder Conference

Reclaiming Wellness Conference / Therapy Fund Foundation

Imagination: A Manifesto by Ruha Benjamin

Sirius Bonner’s Substack

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In this episode hosts Dana, Sirius and Hilary discuss the importance of 'body stories,' defined as the narratives of living in one's own body, often shaped by cultural perceptions and lived experiences. The episode underscores the significance of these stories in body trust work, explaining how understanding them helps externalize self-blame, shame, and anger, ultimately contributing to healing and empowerment. They also touch on how oppressive systems impact body stories and suggest various ways to explore and reclaim these narratives. Additionally, upcoming events like the Body Story workshop and a GLP-1 webinar are highlighted. The episode features excerpts from body stories shared by members of their community, further illustrating the transformative power of this practice.

RESOURCES

Explore Your Body Story online workshop: January 31, 2026 from 9 a.m. to 1 p.m. PST

Annual Webinar on GLP1 Medications: February 6, 2026 from 10 a.m. to noon PST

Reclaiming Body Trust book (Chapter 2 on body stories)

Read some body stories on our blog here

A Letter from My Body by Sirius Bonner

Body story prompts

Men Unscripted Podcast

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