The Cartographers

How do modernity, technology, brain science, and spiritual formation work together? In this wide-ranging and fascinating conversation, Bryce and Ashley sit down with Curt Thompson, MD, who deftly combines interpersonal neurobiology and Christian faith. We talk about institutions, the lack of fruitfulness amongst Christians, and developing a Christian imagination. A must-listen: practical, thoughtful, warm-hearted and help for you to live with your people and in your place.

Resources Mentioned:

Curt's latest book, The Soul of Desire

Curt's website and podcast

Mark Oppenheimer, "The Schools that Ban Smartphones," The Atlantic

The Cartographers is a production of Willowbrae Institute. Find out more at willowbrae.org. The Cartographers is hosted by Bryce Hales and Ashley Hales and mixed and edited by Nathan Michel.

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Can the church be a place for disillusioned people? In this conversation, Bryce Hales and Ashley Hales talk with Sara Billups about the ways consumer-driven and end-times-focused Christian belief shaped a generation. Listen in for thoughtful commentary and a way forward.

Resources mentioned:

Sara Billups, Orphaned Believers: How a Generation of Christian Exiles can Find the Way Home

Leigh Stein, "The Empty Religions of Instagram," NYT

Find out more about Sara on her website.

The Cartographers is a production of Willowbrae Institute. Find out more at willowbrae.org. The Cartographers is hosted by Bryce Hales and Ashley Hales and mixed and edited by Nathan Michel.

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Bryce Hales and Ashley Hales interview Christopher Watkin about the story the bible tells as an interpretative lens. We speak about the issue of critical theory, how his book Biblical Critical Theory is useful, and how it might help us over and against a culture war lens.

LINKS

Christopher Watkin's book, Biblical Critical Theory

Find out more about Christopher on his website

The Cartographers is a production of Willowbrae Institute. Find out more at willowbrae.org. The Cartographers is hosted by Bryce Hales and Ashley Hales and mixed and edited by Nathan Michel.

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How do we think about our days, weeks, and seasons? In this conversation with Glenn Packiam, Ashley Hales and Bryce Hales talk about emotional health for leaders, the difference between information and transformation, and how an intentional year fits in.

Resources mentioned:

Holly Packiam and Glenn Packiam, The Intentional Year

Glenn Packiam, The Resilient Pastor and more resources at Barna

The Cartographers is a production of Willowbrae Institute. Find out more at willowbrae.org. The Cartographers is hosted by Bryce Hales and Ashley Hales and mixed and edited by Nathan Michel.

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What does it look like to grow old -- not just in years but in wisdom? How are young men growing in maturity? What does emotional health look like?

Part of charting the cultural landscape for Christian leaders is paying attention to our spiritual health and the need for sage guides. Bryce Hales and Ashley Hales speak to counselor Chris Bruno about his new book, Sage.

Resources mentioned:

Chris Bruno's ReStory Counseling

Chris' book, Sage

The Cartographers is a production of Willowbrae Institute. Find out more at willowbrae.org. The Cartographers is hosted by Bryce Hales and Ashley Hales and mixed and edited by Nathan Michel.

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How do we move through pain? What forms can we use to practice communal identity with others and promote honesty before God? How do liturgies form us?

Part of charting the cultural landscape for Christian leaders is promoting forms for communal and historical identity, rather than a flippant individualism. In this interview, Ashley Hales speaks to writer Douglas McKelvey about his work in Every Moment Holy.

Resources mentioned:

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Every Moment Holy

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DOUGLAS KAINE MCKELVEY grew up in East Texas and moved to Nashville in 1991 to participate in the early work of Charlie Peacock’s Art House Foundation, an organization dedicated to a shared exploration of faith and the arts. In the years since, he has worked as an author, song lyricist, scriptwriter, and video director. He has penned more than 350 lyrics recorded by artists including Switchfoot, Kenny Rogers, Sanctus Real, and Jason Gray. Doug and his wife Lise have three grown daughters, three sons-in-law, and one sparkly-eyed granddaughter. 

The Cartographers is a production of Willowbrae Institute. Find out more at willowbrae.org. The Cartographers is hosted by Bryce Hales and Ashley Hales and mixed and edited by Nathan Michel.

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How do our limits lead us towards love? What is our understanding of the human person within the sphere of faith? How do we actually live out a kingdom ethnic in this day and age?

Part of charting the cultural landscape for Christian leaders is a full understanding of the human person. In this conversation, Ashley Hales and Bryce Hales speak with David Zahl about his book, Low Anthropology.

Resources mentioned:

David Zahl, Mockingbird Ministries

David's book: Low Anthropology

The Cartographers is a production of Willowbrae Institute. Find out more at willowbrae.org. The Cartographers is hosted by Bryce Hales and Ashley Hales and mixed and edited by Nathan Michel.

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Finding Holy is transitioning to The Cartographers: Mapping the Cultural Landscape for 21st century Christian Leaders.

Join Ashley Hales and Bryce Hales as they have conversations with guests in a changing cultural landscape. Escape the same thoughtful commentary and questions, wise ways forward, and a new emphasis on the intersection between spiritual formation, imagination, individual and institutions.

The Cartographers will release every other Tuesday. We'll be back in 2 weeks with 3 new episodes. Be sure to subscribe!

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In this third conversation with Jen Pollock Michel, we talk about how a rule of life helps lower our time-anxiety. This is a practical tool to cooperation with the work of God and of grace in our lives. We talk about the power of attention, the way of wisdom, and practical ways to move through December and January.

LINKS

Jen’s new book, In Good Time

Pre-order Bonus: Jen's free 4 week course on a rule of life this January

Win 1 of 5 copies of In Good Time! Just rate and review the Finding Holy Podcast! When you do just send me a quick note to [email protected] and you’ll be entered to win a copy!

Ashley’s most recent book, A Spacious Life is in paperback, ebook and audio. You can find out more about her work and speaking at aahales.com and signup for her substack.

The Finding Holy Podcast will be looking a bit different and a lot the same in the new year as we place the podcast under the direction of Willowbrae Institute. Be sure to leave a rating and review wherever you listen to podcasts.

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In this second conversation this Advent season, Jen Pollock Michel and I talk about how to keep time (not save it or spend it). How do we approach the time that we have? We talk what a rule of life is. This is a timely conversation now, but is great for end-of-year and beginning-of-the-year thoughts, planning and goals! Here's how not to get overwhelmed. Listen in to this thoughtful, fun, and practical episode.

LINKS

Jen’s book, In Good Time

Pre-order Bonus: Jen's free 4 week course on a rule of life

Win 1 of 5 copies of In Good Time! Just rate and review the Finding Holy Podcast! When you do just send me a quick note to [email protected] and you’ll be entered to win a copy!

Ashley’s most recent book, A Spacious Life is in paperback, ebook and audio. You can find out more about her work and speaking at aahales.com and signup for her substack. Be sure to leave a rating and review wherever you listen to podcasts.

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