How much of your spiritual struggle comes from trying to manage your sin instead of trusting your identity?

In this episode, Bill and Scott unpack why so many believers live stuck in shame, hiding, and sin-management even though they’ve been given a new identity. Through stories, Scripture, and vulnerable examples, they show how experiencing love—not effort—is what transforms the heart. 

Topics Bill Thrall and Scott Boyd discuss in this episode: 

(01:00) Scott shares how misunderstanding grace left him feeling imprisoned during his wife’s cancer battle.

(02:40) How trying to use the law to become godly cuts Christians off from grace.

(04:20) Bill describes the years he believed God loved him but never experienced that love personally.

(06:00) How conflict with others can impact whether we view ourselves as a saint.

(08:00) How passiveness was secretly the voice of Bill’s anger. 

(09:50) How transformation means the old patterns no longer own you, even if reactions still occur.

(11:20) How hiding sin made Bill a slave to it. 

(15:20) Scott describes a leadership program that revealed how his self-protection was rooted in fear.

(18:40) How shame awakens hopeless striving, and why a new reality is the only solution. 

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