What does it take to challenge centuries of tradition and shift an entire culture’s relationship with alcohol? In this episode, I sit down with Moa Gürbüzer, a former social worker and family therapist who saw firsthand how alcohol harms families and communities. Rather than staying in the therapy room, Moa decided to tackle the issue at its roots: our cultural norms and rituals around drinking.

At the age of 55, she founded Oddbird, a Swedish winery dedicated to producing world-class, non-alcoholic wines. Partnering with leading oenologists and more than 100 vineyards, Moa has turned skepticism into admiration—her wines are now served in Michelin-starred restaurants, featured at the Nobel Prize after-party, and even gifted to Porsche owners in Sweden.

Moa shares her journey from being dismissed as an “outsider” to building a respected brand that blends craftsmanship, science, and social purpose. We talk about why shame is at the core of drinking culture, how women supporting women can accelerate change, and why failure should be celebrated as part of the entrepreneurial process.

This is a conversation about innovation, resilience, and rewriting the rules—not only for the wine industry, but for how we celebrate, connect, and care for one another.

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