In this episode, Chris Do and Jule Kim unpack why feedback is both essential and emotionally difficult for creatives. Drawing from decades of teaching, coaching, and public critique, they explore the difference between honest feedback and destructive criticism, and why many people interpret any suggestion for improvement as a personal attack.

The discussion challenges the idea that feedback should soothe feelings, arguing instead that clarity, accountability, and truth are what actually lead to growth. Throughout the episode, Chris and Jule reflect on how upbringing, education systems, and generational shifts have shaped our collective tolerance for critique.

Timestamps

(00:00) — Intro

(10:05) — Setting expectations early

(20:01) — Critique versus roasting

(30:12) — Accountability in education

(40:18) — Coddling culture explained

(49:55) — Honesty over comfort

(01:00:03) — Fear of critical feedback

(01:10:22) — Teaching truth responsibly

(01:19:40) — Crossing the critique line

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In this episode, Chris Do breaks down why most creatives struggle to market their services effectively—and how that changes in 2026. He explains the critical difference between designing for “anyone” versus building services for a clearly defined, high-value client.

Through real examples and audience interaction, Chris shows how understanding psychographics, not just demographics, unlocks better offers, clearer messaging, and higher pricing. The conversation emphasizes why targeting clients with money, urgency, and alignment is not selfish but strategic.

Timestamps

(00:00) — Intro

(01:03) — Psychographics over demographics

(02:10) — Identifying your best clients

(03:58) — Why broke clients limit growth

(05:22) — Pricing math and marketing budgets

(07:05) — Levels of business competition

(12:02) — Clarity creates massive value

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In this episode, Chris Do sits down with designer, publisher, and entrepreneur Jesse Reed to explore the intersection of design systems, business, and long-term creative impact. Jesse shares his journey from Pentagram to co-founding multiple ventures, including Standards Manual, Order, and Standards, and explains how each evolved from curiosity-driven projects into sustainable businesses. The conversation highlights the importance of focus, simplicity, and decision-making in both design and entrepreneurship, especially when building systems meant to scale across teams and industries. Throughout the discussion, Jesse emphasizes that timeless design principles—typography, structure, consistency—remain unchanged even as tools and platforms evolve.

Timestamps

(00:00) — Intro

(06:45) — Founding Standards Manual

(13:30) — Crowdfunding lessons learned

(20:10) — Balancing multiple companies

(27:05) — Focus versus simplicity

(33:50) — Business models in design

(40:20) — Brand guidelines evolution

(46:55) — Emotional branding shift

(53:30) — Rebrand backlash explained

(01:00:05) — Criticism and creative success

(01:06:10) — Collaboration over competition

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In this episode, Chris Do breaks down a powerful lesson on positioning, marketing, and sales using a scene from the TV series Better Call Saul as an unexpected case study. By analyzing Saul Goodman’s pivot from selling cell phones to selling “privacy,” the episode illustrates how redefining a product around a specific pain point can instantly create demand.

The discussion highlights how effective positioning isn’t about changing the product itself, but about reframing who it’s for and why it matters. This real-world example makes abstract marketing concepts tangible and easy to understand

Timestamps

(00:00) — Intro

(01:37) — Creating customer demand

(02:36) — Selling privacy positioning

(06:35) — Positioning definition explained

(08:28) — Go where customers are

(10:55) — Blue ocean strategy

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In this episode, I’m back with my friend, entrepreneur, author, and powerlifter Jodie Cook, for another incredible conversation about discovering your personal success system. Jodie’s got an inspiring journey — from building and selling a 20-person social media agency to launching Coachvox and becoming a Forbes contributor.

In this episode, we explore what it means to have a success system, why simplifying your communication matters, and how persistence and visualization play a huge role in achieving your goals. We also get deep into personal reflections — like the lessons we learn from childhood and the hidden power of discomfort as a sign of growth. If you’ve ever wondered what your unique formula for success might be, this is an episode you won’t want to miss.

Timestamps

(00:00) - Intro

(02:00) - Jodie’s journey and recent achievements

(06:15) - The power of children’s books in storytelling

(10:30) - Personal success systems explained

(13:45) - Success stories: Taylor Swift, Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk

(17:00) - Visualization and goal setting

(21:45) - Communication and cultural understanding

(25:00) - Using personal strengths for success

(29:00) - Powerlifting and competitive mindset

(32:00) - Visualization as a success tool

(37:30) - Cosmic perspective and clarity

(43:00) - My personal success system exploration

(55:00) - The importance of persistence and adaptability

(01:02:00) - Creativity, patterns, and personal growth

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In this episode, Chris Do sits down with Mo Said, founder and creative director of Mojo Supermarket, to unpack what it really means to build an interesting life, business, and brand. Through stories from Mo’s journey—starting an agency with little structure, growing it into a global creative force, and constantly chasing curiosity—they explore why interesting work comes from interesting people living intentional lives. The conversation weaves through personal risk, creative courage, and the idea that misalignment, not overwork, is often the true cause of burnout.

Timestamps

(00:00) — Intro

(06:12) — Taking risks without fear

(12:05) — Failure builds personal value

(17:48) — Finding what interests you

(23:31) — Why boredom causes burnout

(29:14) — Stories make people memorable

(34:52) — Applying interest to branding

(40:33) — Creative strategy in practice

(45:58) — Pitching bold campaign ideas

(51:27) — Selling ideas with confidence

(56:49) — Creativity versus business tension

(01:02:15) — Structure fuels creative output

(01:07:36) — Planning life in short sprints

(01:12:08) — Constraints spark innovation

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In this episode, Chris Do sits down with returning guest Daniel Priestley for their fourth conversation, diving deep into what it really takes to land high-end clients and transform a creative business. Daniel explains why top-tier clients are often easier to work with than small ones, revealing the mindset shifts required to overcome insecurity and move into higher-value work.

Together, they discuss how pedigree, past experiences, and a well-crafted personal narrative become the foundation of building credibility. Daniel also teaches the value of cataloging your wins, numbers, and stories—assets most creatives overlook while chasing the “next thing.” Their conversation sets the tone for anyone who wants to step into the role of a true key person of influence.

Timestamps

(00:00) — Intro

(08:12) — High-End Clients Behave Differently

(15:27) — Cataloging Stories and Data

(23:04) — Reframing Expertise With Niche

(31:18) — Discovering Key Influence Identity

(39:05) — Why Waiting Lists Create Demand

(46:52) — Filtering Clients With Criteria

(55:40) — Handling Objections and Self-Doubt

(01:03:11) — Power of Building a List

(01:11:22) — Turning Scarcity Into Leverage

(01:19:40) — Repositioning Through Better Pitching

(01:27:58) — Identity, Action, and Momentum

(01:36:10) — Final Lessons on Influence

Check out today's guest, Daniel Priestley:

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In this episode, Chris Do and Drigo Tasca challenges creatives to confront the stories that keep them small and the habits that limit long-term growth. Drawing from personal experience as an immigrant, educator, and entrepreneur, Chris explores how identity, environment, and mindset shape success more than tactics ever will.

The discussion highlights the importance of vision, self-awareness, and surrounding yourself with people who expand your sense of what’s possible. Throughout the episode, Chris emphasizes that growth often requires discomfort, sacrifice, and a willingness to let go of outdated versions of yourself.

Timestamps

(00:00) — Intro

(07:48) — Success definitions reframed

(15:36) — Identity versus outcomes

(23:24) — Vision before evidence

(31:13) — Developing creative clarity

(38:59) — Discipline compounds growth

(46:41) — Letting go of old selves

(54:12) — Permission and agency

Check out today's guest, Drigo Tasca:

Website: ⁠https://www.rodrigotasca.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rodrigo-tasca

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In this episode, Chris sits down with entrepreneur and creator Dan Martell for a deep dive into personal brand building, creative discipline, and the decade-long journey behind Dan’s explosive growth.

Dan unpacks the pivotal dinner conversation that pushed him from “reluctant creator” to going fully pro, ultimately adding millions of followers and hundreds of millions of monthly views. He discusses the emotional hurdles of talking on camera, the evolution from a traditional marketing mindset to a full media company, and the mindset shifts required to produce consistently at scale.

Timestamps

(00:00) — Intro

(07:42) — Going pro on YouTube

(14:28) — Overcoming early camera anxiety

(21:03) — ADHD as entrepreneurial advantage

(27:18) — Buyback time framework explained

(33:56) — Building entrepreneurial team culture

(39:47) — Scaling media with AI

(45:32) — Data-driven creative decisions

(51:48) — Art versus algorithm tension

(57:11) — Recharge, hobbies, and lifestyle

(01:02:44) — Creativity through boredom moments

(01:06:58) — Mentorship shaping business models

Check out today's guest, Dan Martell:

Website: https://www.danmartell.com/

LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://ca.linkedin.com/in/dmartell

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In this episode, Chris Do and Jule Kim dive deep into the meaning of true friendship and the different tiers that define closeness and trust. They explore how people move in and out of our inner circles over time, based on shared values and behavior.

Chris shares his philosophy of offering friendship freely as a way to reveal true character. Jule reflects on her people-pleasing tendencies and how boundaries have evolved throughout her life. Together, they unpack how friendships form not just through proximity but through intentional choice.

Timestamps

(00:00) — Intro

(07:45) — Four tiers of friends

(13:52) — Reading people’s behavior

(19:30) — Hidden intentions in relationships

(25:42) — People-pleasing consequences

(32:58) — Values shaping connection

(39:44) — Judgment versus grace

(47:10) — Navigating social hierarchies

(54:55) — When friendships shift

(01:02:12) — Boundaries and self-respect

(01:09:49) — Avoiding harmful influences

(01:16:33) — Friendship tests explained

(01:23:25) — Giving versus being used

(01:31:18) — Trust earned over time

(01:38:10) — Acceptance and belonging

Check out today's guest, Jule Kim:

Jule's LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/julekim/⁠⁠⁠

Jule's Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/itsjulekim⁠⁠⁠

Executive Coach Jule Kim : ⁠⁠⁠https://adviceactually.com/⁠⁠⁠

Jule Kim's Podcasts:

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