Jami Miscik, CEO of Global Strategic Insights, Inc., and Adam Segal, director of the Digital and Cyberspace Policy program at CFR, sit down with James M. Lindsay to discuss the fragmentation of the internet, cybercrime and cyber espionage, and the future of U.S. cyberspace policy.

Mentioned on the Podcast

David Cattler and Daniel Black, “The Myth of the Missing Cyberwar,” Foreign Affairs, April 6, 2022

Council on Foreign Relations, Confronting Reality in Cyberspace: Foreign Policy for a Fragmented Internet, July 2022

Erica D. Lonergan, “The Cyber-Escalation Fallacy,” Foreign Affairs, April 15, 2022

Adam Segal, The Hacked World Order: How Nations Fight, Trade, Maneuver, and Manipulate in the Digital Age, November 2015