The GTMnow Podcast

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  • GTM 161: How to Build a GTM Roadmap (Lessons from Plaid’s $3M → $300M Scale) | Paul Williamson

    Paul Williamson is a seasoned go-to-market leader and advisor best known for helping Plaid scale from $3M to $300M ARR. As Head of Revenue, he built and evolved Plaid’s go-to-market roadmap across product-market fit, upmarket expansion, and new verticals. With deep experience aligning GTM with product, he now advises founders on sequencing bets, building forward-compatible roadmaps, and scaling revenue organizations with intention.

    Discussed in this Episode

    • Why GTM roadmaps should be “forward-compatible”
    • Iteration cycles in GTM vs. product roadmaps
    • Early lessons from Plaid’s rudimentary qualification process
    • Recognizing high-value clients vs. anti-patterns in inbound leads
    • How daily standups created fast GTM learning loops
    • Shifting from PLG to sales-led motions with SDRs and routing
    • Sequencing GTM expansion: fintech → enterprise FSIs → embedded fintech
    • Compensation design mistakes and their impact on sales behavior

    Episode Highlights

    00:00 — Why GTM roadmaps should be built “forward-compatible”

    01:53 — How Plaid iterated through 9–10 GTM versions in the first year

    05:12 — Plaid’s early qualification process: 4 simple questions

    07:28 — Why most inbound leads weren’t equal—and how Plaid spotted patterns

    10:01 — Using daily standups twice a day to refine GTM qualification

    14:32 — How Plaid’s GTM roadmap evolved from monthly to yearly cycles

    20:46 — Moving beyond partnerships to diversify top-of-funnel channels

    24:53 — Scaling into enterprise financial institutions with tailored product needs

    27:09 — Entering phase three: embedded fintech with customers like Tesla

    30:00 — Compensation design mistakes that slowed deals and created risk

    This episode is brought to you by: Harmonic

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    Guest Links

    • LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulrwilliamson

    Host Links

    • LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophiebuonassisi
    • X (Twitter):https://x.com/sophiebuona
    • Newsletter:https://thegtmnewsletter.substack.com

    The GTMnow Podcast
    The GTMnow Podcast is a weekly podcast featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.

    Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content. 

    39 min
  • GTM 160: The Startup PR Playbook Every Founder Needs: How to Nail Your Launch, Get in the News, and Avoid the Biggest PR Mistakes | Jenny He

    Jenny He is the Founder and General Partner at Position Ventures, an early-stage venture fund that backs startups with strategic communications from day one. Previously, Jenny led comms at Square and has since helped hundreds of founders land coverage in top outlets like TechCrunch and Forbes. With deep expertise in positioning, storytelling, and PR, she’s on a mission to help startups craft differentiated narratives that drive credibility, legitimacy, and growth.

    Discussed in This Episode

    • What PR actually is (and isn’t) for startups
    • The difference between positioning, storytelling, and PR — and how they stack together
    • When PR makes sense and when to hold back on announcements
    • Step-by-step process for landing coverage in top outlets like TechCrunch or Forbes
    • How to build authentic relationships with reporters before you pitch
    • What makes something truly newsworthy: timeliness, impact, relevance
    • Tactical advice for pitching, interviews, and amplifying coverage post-launch
    • How PR fits into the broader go-to-market motion

    Episode Highlights

    00:00 — Positioning, storytelling, and PR defined

    02:23 — Jenny explains what PR really is and why startups misunderstand it

    06:39 — The first step before any PR push: setting clear goals

    11:37 — Example of a newsworthy founder story: building an AI radiologist from personal experience

    15:17 — The three elements of newsworthiness: timeliness, impact, and relevance

    17:42 — Why building warm relationships with reporters is crucial

    20:36 — Preparing for the interview itself vs. outreach

    22:47 — Amplifying coverage through your network post-publication

    25:07 — What PR agencies cost (and why no one can guarantee coverage)

    29:18 — Jenny’s #1 book recommendation on positioning

    Thanks to Our Sponsor – Clarify:

    Clarify is the autonomous CRM built for founders and early-stage teams who want to build more pipeline, close more deals, and spend way less time on busywork.

    Clarify automatically enriches your contacts, captures leads from anywhere (even one click from LinkedIn), and keeps your pipeline up to date on its own, so you can focus on winning deals, not updating fields.

    If you’re looking to simplify your stack and help your team move faster, check out Clarify.

    Recommended Books

    • Positioning: The Battle for Your Mind by Al Ries & Jack Trout — Jenny’s #1 recommendation for founders learning positioning fundamentals.

    Referenced

    • Clarify (autonomous CRM): https://clarify.ai
    • TechCrunch: https://techcrunch.com
    • Forbes: https://forbes.com
    •  New Lantern (portfolio company example): https://newlantern.ai
    • Square: https://squareup.com

    Guest Links

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennyhe
    • X (Twitter): https://x.com/jennydhe 
    • Website: https://positionventures.com

    The GTMnow Podcast
    The GTMnow Podcast is a weekly podcast featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.

    Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content. 

    31 min
  • GTM 159: Scaling ZoomInfo to over $1B ARR, the Upmarket Playbook, and Launching CoPilot to over $100M Revenue in 6 months | James Roth

    James Roth is the Chief Revenue Officer at ZoomInfo, where he oversees a global revenue engine supporting over 37,000 customers and more than $1 billion in ARR. With a background in scaling hypergrowth teams and building enterprise go-to-market machines, James has helped reposition ZoomInfo from a sales tool to the foundational data layer for modern GTM teams. Under his leadership, ZoomInfo launched Copilot, its flagship AI product, and executed a bold shift upmarket — transitioning from transactional selling to a data-first, enterprise-driven GTM strategy.

    Discussed in This Episode

    • How ZoomInfo transitioned from transactional selling to enterprise go-to-market
    • The "Good Co, Bad Co" framework for segment-specific product retention
    • Why ZoomInfo changed its ticker symbol to GTM
    • Launching Copilot and driving $100M revenue in under 6 months
    • How internal AI usage became the go-to-market motion
    • Key shifts in comp design and team segmentation for scaling upmarket
    • Using telemetry and real-time signal tracking to measure rep effectiveness
    • Lessons in long-term execution vs. short-term growth pressure

    Episode Highlights

    00:00 — ZoomInfo's evolution from a sales tool to a data-first platform

    17:06 — Why data as a service is ZoomInfo’s fastest-growing business

    20:43 — How to build and apply the “Good Co, Bad Co” segmentation framework

    26:26 — The hard part about going upmarket? Aligning the full funnel org

    30:19 — Changing your ticker to GTM: A bold positioning play

    34:31 — Copilot’s $100M launch: The power of internal usage

    39:53 — Most AI tools show <5% revenue lift. Here's why

    43:29 — How ZoomInfo is operationalizing AI across the org

    48:29 — The signals > activity shift in modern sales measurement

    52:18 — What James wants future CROs to steal: Think long-term, build patiently

    Thanks to Our Sponsor – UserEvidence:

    UserEvidence is the Customer Evidence Platform that helps you collect feedback, surface proof points, and turn customer wins into bite-sized assets your sales and marketing teams can actually use. Capture social proof at scale. Arm reps with credible stories. Close more deals with trust.

    Learn more at: https://userevidence.com/gtmnow

    Guest Links

    •  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-roth-3a913b51/

    Host Links

    •  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophiebuonassisi/
    • X (Twitter): https://x.com/sophiebuona
    • Newsletter: https://thegtmnewsletter.substack.com/
    • Website: https://gtmnow.com

    Where to Find GTMnow

    • Website: https://gtmnow.com
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/gtmnow/
    • X (Twitter): https://x.com/GTMnow_
    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@GTM_now
    • The GTM Podcast: https://gtmnow.com/tag/podcast/

    The GTMnow Podcast
    The GTMnow Podcast is a weekly podcast featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.

    Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content. 

    48 min
  • GTM 158: From Startup to $4B+ Unicorn: How Vanta Scaled Past $100M ARR and Beat 40+ Competitors | Stevie Case

    Stevie Case is the Chief Revenue Officer at Vanta, the $4B leader in trust management and compliance automation. Since joining in 2021, Stevie has scaled the company from sub-$20M ARR to north of $100M, navigated 40+ copycat competitors, rebuilt both pre- and post-sales engines, and led Vanta’s expansion from SMB into enterprise. A former world’s first female pro gamer turned tech sales leader, Stevie previously held senior roles at Twilio, where she helped grow the enterprise business to a $1B run rate. 

    Discussed in This Episode

    • How Stevie’s path from pro gamer to CRO shaped her competitive edge
    • Early-stage chaos at Vanta and the signs of undeniable product-market fit
    • Battling over 40 copycat competitors with value selling and a “CIA” competitive squad
    • Why execution, not first-mover advantage, is the only sustainable moat
    • The challenges and lessons from scaling SMB sales and moving into enterprise
    • Building go-to-market experiments before committing product investment
    • Transforming post-sales into a growth engine and driving net retention up
    • Stevie’s view on AI in revenue operations and personal productivity

    Episode Highlights

    00:00 — “Every business is subject to the laws of physics and math… Execution is the only moat.”

    03:07 — Stevie on becoming the world’s first female pro gamer and how competitiveness fueled her career.

    06:25 — The undeniable product-market fit that convinced Stevie to join Vanta.

    14:02 — Facing 40+ copycat competitors and learning that flashy marketing can’t beat sustainable growth.

    16:23 — Transitioning from transactional selling to deep, value-based discovery using MEDDPICC.

    18:30 — Creating Vanta’s “CIA” Competitive Intelligence Agency to win back customers.

    26:10 — Launching the experimental enterprise sales team and the patience it took to scale it.

    47:08 — Rebuilding post-sales into separate customer success and account management functions.

    50:56 — Vanta’s next big GTM bets: platform sales, public sector, and deeper enterprise expansion.

    53:27 — How Stevie is using AI in revenue operations and her own work life.

    Guest Links

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steviecase

    Thanks to our Sponsor: Qualified

    Piper is the #1 AI SDR on G2.

    AI SDR agents are changing the future of sales. And Piper is leading the way.

    Piper is the top-ranked AI SDR on G2, trusted by hundreds of high-growth GTM teams — including many in the GTMfund community. She works around the clock to follow up with every lead, book meetings, and qualify prospects, all by reading real buying signals.

    That means your team spends less time chasing and more time closing.

    Piper isn’t just automating repetitive work — she’s transforming pipeline generation at scale.

    Discover how AI SDRs like Piper can help you build pipeline faster at qualified.com.

    The GTMnow Podcast
    The GTMnow Podcast is a weekly podcast featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.

    Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content. 

    58 min
  • GTM 157: How ClickUp Scaled 17x and Cut CAC 3× — GTM Systems, Building Incrementally and Going from PLG to SLG | Gaurav Agarwal

    Gaurav Agarwal is the COO of ClickUp, where he’s helped scale the company 17x in two years and cut CAC by 3x—all while leading across marketing, product, sales, and services. Formerly in banking and product roles, Gaurav brings a rare systems-oriented mindset to growth. He’s known for connecting the dots across GTM, scaling PLG engines, driving incrementality with rigor, and building cultures of experimentation, ownership, and speed.

    Discussed in this episode

    • Why growth is more about systems than marketing
    • How ClickUp scaled 17x while reducing CAC by 3x
    • The cultural shifts required to align GTM teams
    • Incrementality testing vs. attribution modeling
    • Building a true sales motion on top of PLG
    • Input KPIs as a driver of experimentation speed
    • How ClickUp is using AI across marketing and sales
    • The concept of GTM as demand creation vs. harvesting

    Episode Highlights

    00:00 — Everyone is doing all the work—but you're winning by chance, not by design

    02:01 — Gaurav on seeing growth as a systems function, not just marketing

    13:33 — Culture alone delivered roughly half of the 3× CAC reduction at ClickUp

    15:53 — Gaurav defines incrementality testing vs. flawed attribution models

    29:27 — Setting input KPIs so squads deliver a “win every week” keeps momentum high

    32:53 — AI is being embedded across PLG + GTM workflows—from content briefs to deal signals

    Recommended Books

    • Shareholder Letters by Jeff Bezos 

    Referenced

    • ClickUp:https://clickup.com/
      • Gong: https://www.gong.io/
      • Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/
      • Robinhood: https://robinhood.com/

    Guest Links (Gaurav Agarwal):

    • LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/gauravragarwal/

    Host Speaker Links (Sophie Buonassisi):

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophiebuonassisi/
    • Newsletter: https://thegtmnewsletter.substack.com/

    Where to find GTMnow (GTMfund’s media brand):

    • Website: https://gtmnow.com/
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/gtmnow/
    • Twitter/X: https://x.com/GTMnow_
    • YouTube: /@gtm_now
    • The GTMnow Podcast (on all major directories): https://gtmnow.com/tag/podcast/

    Thanks to our Sponsor: Qualified

    Piper is the #1 AI SDR on G2.

    AI SDR agents are changing the future of sales. And Piper is leading the way.

    Piper is the top-ranked AI SDR on G2, trusted by hundreds of high-growth GTM teams — including many in the GTMfund community. She works around the clock to follow up with every lead, book meetings, and qualify prospects, all by reading real buying signals.

    That means your team spends less time chasing and more time closing.

    Piper isn’t just automating repetitive work — she’s transforming pipeline generation at scale.

    Discover how AI SDRs like Piper can help you build pipeline faster at qualified.com.

    The GTMnow Podcast
    The GTMnow Podcast is a weekly podcast featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.

    Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content. 

    53 min
  • GTM 156: Revenue Marketing Unpacked: GTM Lessons, AI, and What’s Really Broken in Attribution | John Fernandez

    John Fernandez is SVP at Datasite, with a track record as GTM leader at Glia, ContentWise, and Diligent, having scaled teams through IPOs, acquisitions, and $1.4B in equity events. At Glia, John pioneered revenue marketing’s impact, driving 71% of pipeline and 60% of new business revenue from marketing. Connect with him for real-world GTM lessons, scaling playbooks, and unique frameworks for aligning marketing with revenue.

    Discussed in this Episode:

    • How to architect a B2B marketing org that is truly accountable for pipeline and revenue, not just “influence”
    • Aligning product, content, and campaign teams to ONE goal: pipeline creation (culture, incentives, and operations)
    • The “Value Chain” framework for mapping marketing’s full-stack impact across the GTM engine
    • John’s “4 Whats” Framework for operationalizing measurement: what's working, what's not, what's new, what's next
    • What’s broken about attribution today and why multi-touch measurement is often a red herring
    • The shift from SEO to GEO: How generative AI is re-writing digital discoverability and B2B content strategy
    • AI in marketing without losing authenticity: human-in-the-loop, voice, and trust factors you need to watch
    • Why more Martech isn’t the answer (and the tech stack crisis facing GTM teams)
    • Deep problem understanding as a GTM superpower (what chess can teach SaaS leaders about winning)
    • Key moves for founders and GTM leaders facing today’s attention and signal problem

    Guest Speaker Links (John Fernandez):

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnfernandez/
    • Datasite: https://www.datasite.com/

    Host Speaker Links (Sophie Buonassisi):

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophiebuonassisi/
    • Newsletter: https://substack.com/@sophiebuonassisi

    Where to find GTMnow (GTMfund’s media brand):

    Website: https://gtmnow.com/
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/gtmnow/
    Twitter/X: https://x.com/GTMnow_
    YouTube: /@gtm_now
    The GTM Podcast (on all major directories): https://gtmnow.com/tag/podcast/

    The GTMnow Podcast
    The GTMnow Podcast is a weekly podcast featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.

    Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content. 

    1 hr 4 min
  • GTM 155: How to Build a GTM Motion from Scratch — Using AI, Community, and Data as a Moat | Erica Anderman

    Erica Anderman is the co-founder and COO of Foodini, an AI-powered platform solving food allergy and dietary transparency through data infrastructure. With over 15 years of go-to-market experience across foodtech and vertical SaaS, Erica has led revenue at companies like Slice, Seated, and Odeko, and held roles across sales, customer success, partnerships, and RevOps. She began her career in door-to-door restaurant sales and now builds GTM from the ground up, helping 50% of the population with dietary needs find safe, personalized dining experiences.

    Discussed in this Episode:

    • Transitioning from CRO to founder (and why it’s so humbling)
    • Tactical frameworks for finding product-market fit (especially in early pivots)
    • Building a GTM motion from zero using community and customer obsession
    • What AI actually changes in GTM (hint: it’s not just about productivity)
    • How to treat fundraising like a sales motion (including identifying your ICP)
    • Practical tools Erica is using to build GTM motions faster with fewer resources

    Highlights:
    00:45 From Sales to CRO: The Unconventional Path
    02:47 Why Being a Generalist Can Make You a Better Leader
    05:31 What AI Is Really Doing to GTM Roles
    06:33 Scaling Yourself Before You Scale Your Team
    08:00 From CRO to Founder: Sales Skills That Transfer to Fundraising
    10:10 Fundraising Is Just Another Sales Funnel
    14:12 Relationships Compound in GTM and Fundraising
    22:33 Finding PMF by Listening Hard
    26:04 When Your GTM Motion Becomes Compliance-Driven
    27:41 Community as a GTM Lever (Not Just a Buzzword)
    38:28 Pre-PMF vs. Post-PMF
    42:53 Turning Messy Data into Valuable Content
    56:12 Tools Over Headcount: Erica’s Favorite AI Stack

    Guest Speaker Links (Erica Anderman):
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericaanderman
    Foodini: https://foodini.co/

    Host Speaker Links (Sophie Buonassisi):
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/insophiebuonassisi
    Newsletter: https://substack.com/@sophiebuonassisi

    Thanks to Our Sponsor – UserEvidence:
    UserEvidence is the Customer Evidence Platform that helps you collect feedback, surface proof points, and turn customer wins into bite-sized assets your sales and marketing teams can actually use. Capture social proof at scale. Arm reps with credible stories. Close more deals with trust.

    Learn more at: https://userevidence.com/gtmnow

    Where to Find GTMnow:
    Website: https://gtmnow.com/
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/gtmnow/
    Twitter/X: https://x.com/GTMnow_
    YouTube: /@gtm_now
    The GTM Podcast (on all major directories): https://gtmnow.com/tag/podcast/

    The GTMnow Podcast
    The GTMnow Podcast is a weekly podcast featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.

    Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content. 

    1 hr 1 min
  • MOMENT: The Next Digital Revolution: You Optimized for Humans, Now You Have to Optimize for AI | with Mike Walrath (CEO of Yext)

    This bonus episode explores one of the most important shifts happening in go-to-market right now: the move from optimizing for humans to optimizing for AI.

    Mike Walrath, CEO of Yext and former founder of Right Media (acquired by Yahoo for $850M), shares why this change is as big — or bigger — than the first wave of digital transformation. You’ll learn how AI agents are changing how customers discover businesses, why your structured data now matters more than your homepage, and what you can do to stay ahead.

    This is a clip from the full episode with Mike — a must-watch roadmap for the AI-driven future of marketing. Hit the links to dive into the full conversation.

    • GTMnow: https://gtmnow.com/gtm-146-future-of-search-ai-digital-presence-mike-walrath/
    • Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/gtm-146-the-future-of-search-ai-and-digital/id1369291464
    • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/2xs4xXGmTTKXHSNUMmYqvy
    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m1051j_hq4&t=1332s


    Thanks to our Sponsor: Qualified

    Piper is the #1 AI SDR on G2.

    AI SDR agents are changing the future of sales. And Piper is leading the way.

    Piper is the top-ranked AI SDR on G2, trusted by hundreds of high-growth GTM teams — including many in the GTMfund community. She works around the clock to follow up with every lead, book meetings, and qualify prospects, all by reading real buying signals.

    That means your team spends less time chasing and more time closing.

    Piper isn’t just automating repetitive work — she’s transforming pipeline generation at scale.

    Discover how AI SDRs like Piper can help you build pipeline faster at qualified.com.


    Visit us: https://gtmnow.com/
    Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/gtmnow/
    Follow us on Twitter/X: https://x.com/GTMnow_

    The GTMnow Podcast
    The GTMnow Podcast is a weekly podcast featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.

    Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content. 

    22 min
  • GTM 154: How AI is Reshaping Sales Tech | Lessons from Building Sales Cloud, Sales Navigator and now an AI-Native Startup

    Doug Camplejohn is a serial entrepreneur and seasoned executive with extensive experience in B2B SaaS and go-to-market strategies. He has previously held leadership positions at major tech companies including LinkedIn, Salesforce, and Apple before founding Coffee, an AI-first CRM platform.

    Discussed in this Episode:

    • AI-powered CRM and sales automation
    • Go-to-market stack optimization and simplification
    • Building and scaling B2B SaaS companies
    • Revenue operations (RevOps) and AI integration
    • Serial entrepreneurship and company building
    • Transitioning from big tech to startup founder


    Highlights: 
    04:35 From Fliptop to LinkedIn: how Doug navigated acquisition and scaled Sales Navigator.

    06:33 Why Sales Nav was a $250M business with a “crappy product” — and how Doug turned it around.

    09:56 Doug’s “awesome test” for hiring top talent (and the 90-day rule he swears by).

    13:26 The speed dating hack that landed Coffee’s first sales leader.

    17:36 What Doug learned running Sales Cloud at Salesforce — and why he left.

    22:22 The biggest missed opportunity inside Sales Navigator (and what he’d do differently).

    24:37 Why sales tech stacks are bloated — and how AI-native CRMs solve it.

    28:36 What makes a true AI-native product (and why Coffee is built different).

    31:36 The Rippling-inspired vision behind Coffee’s GTM strategy.

    34:47 Three versions of Coffee — and why reps are swiping their own cards.

    39:44 AI agents vs. simple automations — what the future actually looks like.

    42:41 Why SDRs won’t disappear — but their job will change.

    47:45 Data as the new moat: how to build durable product advantage in the AI era.

    50:08 Why Doug runs a podcast and thinks every startup should act like a media company.

    55:09 The new math of headcount: scaling to $100M+ with fewer hires.

    56:45 The “TAM is dead” take — and how Doug thinks about modern segmentation.

    Guest Speaker Links (Doug Camplejohn):

    • LinkedIn:  https://linkedin.com/in/camplejohn
    • Coffee: https://coffee.ai
    • Podcast: https://www.coffee.ai/podcast

    Host Speaker Links (Sophie Buonassisi):

    • LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/sophiebuonassisi
    • Newsletter: https://substack.com/@sophiebuonassisi

    Thanks to our Sponsor: TriNet
    Every early-stage founder is told to focus on product and growth. But behind every product launch and revenue milestone is a team – and building that team is one of the hardest and important parts of the journey.

    “Build the team that builds the company.” – that is part of your go-to-market strategy responsible for growth.  Hiring the right people, keeping them supported, and creating the infrastructure to help them thrive is critical. 

    TriNet exists to make that easier. TriNet’s full suite of HR solutions is designed to support companies at critical inflection points – from early traction to scale. 

    Where to find GTMnow (GTMfund’s media brand):
    Website: https://gtmnow.com/
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/gtmnow/
    Twitter/X: https://x.com/GTMnow_ 
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@GTM_now
    The GTM Podcast (on all major directories): https://gtmnow.com/tag/podcast/

    The GTMnow Podcast
    The GTMnow Podcast is a weekly podcast featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.

    Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content. 

    1 hr
  • GTM 153: Building Technical Growth Machines & Signal-Based Selling with Austin Hughes

    Austin Hughes is the founder and CEO of Unify, a platform helping high-growth teams turn buying signals into pipeline. Previously, Austin led the growth team at Ramp, where he scaled the org from 1 to 25+ and pioneered a product-led, experiment-driven GTM approach. With a background in investment banking and venture capital, Austin brings a uniquely analytical and first-principles mindset to modern B2B growth.

    Discussed in this Episode:

    • Why you should run marketing like product
    • Distribution is a startup's best friend
    • How Austin’s content strategy turned LinkedIn into a hyper-efficient channel
    • Why the best growth hires today are ex-engineers or investors
    • How AI is redefining go-to-market motions

    Highlights: 

    04:00 Ramp’s growth org: running 100+ experiments per quarter

    08:45 Why LinkedIn became Unify’s silver bullet

    11:30 Austin’s content creation workflow (and why he doesn’t use AI to write)

    13:00 Technical vs. traditional growth marketers—how to hire for impact

    17:00 Using Unify to merge 1st & 3rd-party data into a signal pipeline

    20:30 How automation + human-in-loop GTM creates leverage

    24:00 Austin’s Carta example: what perfect relevance looks like

    27:00 What broke in outbound and why signal-based selling is the fix

    32:00 When startups should start ingesting signals

    36:30 Culture of experimentation: “failure is just a data point”

    39:00 How Unify is using AI internally for GTM and support ops

    43:00 What’s coming next: AI-relevant messaging, BDR collaboration tools

    47:00 The end of traditional marketing roles—and what comes next

    Guest Speaker Links (Austin Hughes):

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/austin-t-hughes/
    • Unify: https://www.unifygtm.com/

    Host Speaker Links (Sophie Buonassisi):

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophiebuonassisi/
    • Newsletter: https://substack.com/@sophiebuonassisi

    Where to find GTMnow (GTMfund’s media brand):

    • Website: https://gtmnow.com/
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/gtmnow/
    • Twitter/X: https://x.com/GTMnow_
    • YouTube: /@gtm_now
    • The GTM Podcast (on all major directories): https://gtmnow.com/tag/podcast/

    Thanks to our Sponsors: 

    TriNet
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    Unify
    Timely enough, Unify is also launching something big today — Unify for Sales Reps, their new AI-native system-of-action built to help sales teams work smarter and move faster. With powerful features like an AI

    The GTMnow Podcast
    The GTMnow Podcast is a weekly podcast featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.

    Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content. 

    49 min

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