Mark Thompson and Byron Loflin have been inside more boardrooms than most people could ever imagine — advising Fortune 500 CEOs, coaching global founders, and helping shape the leadership culture of the world’s most powerful companies.

In this rare, unfiltered conversation, they break down the real psychology of leadership — what happens when power, purpose, and pressure collide. They reveal the patterns they’ve seen across hundreds of top performers: how extraordinary leaders build trust when things fall apart, the silent habits that keep them grounded, and the mistakes that quietly destroy credibility.

Mark, one of the world’s leading executive coaches and a confidant to icons like Richard Branson, shares stories from decades spent observing what drives genuine greatness. Byron, as Global Head of Board Engagement at Nasdaq, opens a window into how boards think, how trust is earned at the highest levels, and how leaders survive the scrutiny of modern governance.

Together, they dismantle myths about charisma and control — and instead uncover what truly sustains leadership: empathy, self-awareness, and the willingness to tell the truth when it costs the most.