Honestly, at this point, we might be a Hot Dog podcast that occasionally talks about racing. Alex couldn't make it this week, so James and Thim talk about the latest racing news, then bring up a point of contention from a previous episode. The National Hot Dog and Sausage Council said that no one over the age of 18 should put ketchup on their hot dog. We took issue with this, and Eric Mittenthal, the president of that council called us out, saying we should hear him out. So, we did, and learned a lot about phallic meat.

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