The Incubator

The Incubator

By Ben Courchia & Daphna Yasova BarbeauSociety & CultureScienceMedicineHealth & Fitness
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  • #444 - Can a Beanie Protect NICU Infants from Harmful Noise While Keeping Them Connected to Their Parents?

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    The NICU is one of the loudest environments a newborn will ever experience, yet it is also where the most vulnerable infants spend their earliest, most developmentally critical days. In this Tech Tuesday episode, Ben and Daphna sit down with Gabby Daltoso and Sophie Ishiwari, co-founders of the Sonura Beanie. Their device tackles two pressing NICU challenges at once: harmful noise exposure and disrupted parental connection. By embedding a low-pass filtration system tuned to the acoustic environment of the womb into standard hospital beanies, Sonura attenuates high-frequency alarms while preserving the frequency of the human voice. Parents can also send recordings of songs, stories, and their heartbeat directly to their infant at the bedside. With a feasibility trial underway at Penn Medicine and the University of Pennsylvania President’s Innovation Prize secured, Gabby and Sophie are just getting started.

    To learn more, visit www.sonuracare.com

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    As always, feel free to send us questions, comments, or suggestions to our email: [email protected]. You can also contact the show through Instagram or Twitter, @nicupodcast. Or contact Ben and Daphna directly via their Twitter profiles: @drnicu and @doctordaphnamd. The papers discussed in today's episode are listed and timestamped on the webpage linked below.

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    22 min
  • #443 - Could NeoGuide Be the Answer to the NICU’s Variability Problem?

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    Every neonatologist has built a protocol or written a guideline, and most have done it completely alone. In this episode, Ben sits down with Dr. Christina Muffy Sollinger (UC Davis) and Dr. Sarvin Ghavam (CHOP), the co-founders of NeoGuide, a national collaborative dedicated to connecting clinicians around the shared work of clinical guidelines and practice pathways. Born from a single email that broke a listserv and generated over 120 responses overnight, NeoGuide has grown into a structured community offering a seminar series on topics like transfusion medicine and HIE management, and a curriculum series focused on implementation science. Muffy and Sarvin discuss how to build consensus without promoting cookie-cutter medicine, the moral distress of clinical uncertainty, and their vision for a living repository of institutional pathways. Whether you are at a level four academic center or a small rural NICU, you shouldn’t have to start from scratch.

    To learn more, visit NeoGuide.org

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    As always, feel free to send us questions, comments, or suggestions to our email: [email protected]. You can also contact the show through Instagram or Twitter, @nicupodcast. Or contact Ben and Daphna directly via their Twitter profiles: @drnicu and @doctordaphnamd. The papers discussed in today's episode are listed and timestamped on the webpage linked below.

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    44 min
  • #442 - 📑 Journal Club - The Complete Episode from May 16th 2026

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    Cerebral oxygenation, staffing economics, delivery room scoring, neurodevelopmental prognostication, and public health — a full week on the Incubator Journal Club.

    Ben walks through the NIRTURE trial, a single-device RCT testing cerebral oximetry-guided care in infants born under 29 weeks. The intervention dramatically reduced the burden of cerebral hypoxia and hyperoxia compared to standard care. Secondary clinical outcomes were neutral and neurodevelopmental follow-up is still pending. The question of whether stabilizing cerebral oxygenation actually moves the needle for these babies remains unanswered.

    Daphna covers a brief communication from the Journal of Perinatology on what happens to billing and productivity when NICUs shift to 24-hour in-house attending coverage. Clinical FTE went up, work RVUs went down — and the reason is counterintuitive. Attendings present overnight were weaning babies faster. Better care, less revenue. The coding system was not built to capture that.

    Ben then pairs the 5-minute Apgar with umbilical artery pH in very preterm infants using EPICE cohort data. When both are low, risk is highest. When they compete, the Apgar wins.

    Daphna rounds out Journal Club with a systematic review showing that combining EEG and brain MRI outperforms either tool alone for neurodevelopmental prognostication in preterm infants.

    The week closes with Ben and Eli on the sweeping domestic and international public health funding cuts — and what they mean for the vulnerable populations in your NICU.

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    As always, feel free to send us questions, comments, or suggestions to our email: [email protected]. You can also contact the show through Instagram or Twitter, @nicupodcast. Or contact Ben and Daphna directly via their Twitter profiles: @drnicu and @doctordaphnamd. The papers discussed in today's episode are listed and timestamped on the webpage linked below.

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    1 hr 25 min
  • #442 - [Neo News] - 📌 What Is the Ripple Effect of Defunding Disease Surveillance?

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    In this episode of Neo News, Ben and Eli tackle the recent, quiet—but massive—public health funding cuts implemented by the Department of Health and Human Services. With $600 million pulled back from four targeted states and additional CDC block grants eliminated, they discuss the severe domestic implications for local health departments, HIV/STI surveillance, and lead poisoning prevention. They also zoom out to examine the global health consequences of the US withdrawing from the WHO. Tune in as the hosts break down why these macro-level policy shifts directly impact the frontlines of neonatal care, from the need to scrutinize prenatal labs more closely to adapting clinical protocols for vulnerable populations and new arrivals.

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/11/health/hhs-california-public-health-lawsuit.html

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2026/02/19/alternative-world-health-organization-proposal/

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    As always, feel free to send us questions, comments, or suggestions to our email: [email protected]. You can also contact the show through Instagram or Twitter, @nicupodcast. Or contact Ben and Daphna directly via their Twitter profiles: @drnicu and @doctordaphnamd. The papers discussed in today's episode are listed and timestamped on the webpage linked below.

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    21 min
  • #442 - [Journal Club] - 📌 Does combining EEG and MRI improve neurodevelopmental prognostication in preterm infants?

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    In this episode of Journal Club, we wrap up a marathon recording session with a deep dive into the world of neonatal neuroprognostication. Daphna reviews a systematic review and meta-analysis from Pediatric Neurology that evaluates whether combining EEG and MRI provides better answers for families of preterm infants. While MRI remains a powerful tool for structural assessment, the data suggests that adding the functional insights of EEG significantly boosts specificity, particularly when predicting severe neurodevelopmental outcomes. We discuss the importance of timing these studies and the clinical value of sleep-wake cycling as a developmental milestone at the bedside.

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    Combined Use of Electroencephalography and Magnetic Resonance Imaging in the Prognostication of Neurodevelopmental Outcomes in Preterm Infants - A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis. Forrest CD, Biagioni T, Liley HG, Lai MM, Colditz PB, Ware RS, Boyd RN, Roberts JA.Pediatr Neurol. 2026 Feb;175:116-129. doi: 10.1016/j.pediatrneurol.2025.11.005. Epub 2025 Nov 13.PMID: 41337899 

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    As always, feel free to send us questions, comments, or suggestions to our email: [email protected]. You can also contact the show through Instagram or Twitter, @nicupodcast. Or contact Ben and Daphna directly via their Twitter profiles: @drnicu and @doctordaphnamd. The papers discussed in today's episode are listed and timestamped on the webpage linked below.

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    14 min
  • #442 - [Journal Club] - 📌 Is a low Apgar score more concerning than a low umbilical pH in preemies?

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    Ben kicks things off with a major career update before we dive into a critical study from JAMA Network Open. We explore the predictive value of the five minute Apgar score when combined with umbilical artery pH in very preterm infants. While the Apgar score was originally designed for term babies, this analysis of the EPICE cohort reveals its enduring utility even in the smallest patients. We discuss how these two measures interact, which one "wins" when they conflict, and why the clinician assessment remains a powerful predictor of mortality and severe morbidity in the NICU.

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    Apgar Score Plus Umbilical Artery pH and Adverse Neonatal Outcomes in Very Preterm Infants. Ehrhardt H, Behboodi S, Maier RF, Aubert AM, Ådén U, Staude B, Draper ES, Gudmundsdottir A, Siljehav V, Varendi H, Weber T, Zemlin M, Zeitlin J; EPICE/SHIPS Research Group.JAMA Netw Open. 2026 Feb 2;9(2):e2557913.

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    As always, feel free to send us questions, comments, or suggestions to our email: [email protected]. You can also contact the show through Instagram or Twitter, @nicupodcast. Or contact Ben and Daphna directly via their Twitter profiles: @drnicu and @doctordaphnamd. The papers discussed in today's episode are listed and timestamped on the webpage linked below.

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    22 min
  • #442 - [Journal Club] - 📌 Does 24 hour in house staffing decrease physician productivity metrics?

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    Is your NICU considering the shift to 24 hour in house attending coverage? In this episode of Journal Club, we explore a provocative brief communication from the Journal of Perinatology. Ben and Daphna discuss the impact of moving from home call to on site presence at UC Davis. While the change was intended to improve patient care, the data reveals a surprising 15 percent decrease in work RVUs. We examine how proactive weaning and bedside presence might actually lower billing levels under current CPT codes. Are we being penalized for doing the right thing for our patients?

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    From on-call to on-site: the impact of 24-hour in-house neonatology on billing patterns and physician productivity. Donohue L, Lakshminrusimha S.J Perinatol. 2026 Feb;46(2):289-292. doi: 10.1038/s41372-025-02530-8. Epub 2026 Jan 5.PMID: 41490931 Free PMC article. No abstract available.

    Support the show

    As always, feel free to send us questions, comments, or suggestions to our email: [email protected]. You can also contact the show through Instagram or Twitter, @nicupodcast. Or contact Ben and Daphna directly via their Twitter profiles: @drnicu and @doctordaphnamd. The papers discussed in today's episode are listed and timestamped on the webpage linked below.

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    19 min
  • #442 - [Journal Club] - 📌 Does NIRS guided treatment improve clinical outcomes for extremely preterm infants?

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    In this episode of Journal Club, Ben and Daphna dive into the results of the NIRTURE trial, recently published in JAMA Network Open. Building on the lessons of SafeBoosC 3 , the NIRTURE investigators aimed to reduce the burden of cerebral hypoxia and hyperoxia in extremely preterm infants using a standardized NIRS guided treatment protocol. While the study showed a dramatic improvement in maintaining cerebral normoxia, driven largely by a reduction in hyperoxia , the clinical outcomes before discharge remained neutral. Join us as we discuss whether regional oximetry is a must have bedside tool or just another data point in search of a clear clinical benefit.  

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    Cerebral Oximetry-Guided Treatment and Cerebral Oxygenation in Extremely Preterm Infants: A Randomized Clinical Trial. Jani PR, Goyen TA, Balegar KK, Maheshwari R, Saito-Benz M, Schindler T, Moore J, Merhi M, Cruz M, Song Y, McDonagh H, Luig M, Tracy M, D'Cruz D, Perdomo A, Morakeas S, Dasireddy V, Culcer M, Shingde V, Bennington K, Michalowski J, Fucek A, Querim J, Stevens S, Santanelli J, Elhindi J, Gloss B, Halliday R, Shah D, Popat H.JAMA Netw Open. 2026 Feb 2;9(2):e2557620. 

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    As always, feel free to send us questions, comments, or suggestions to our email: [email protected]. You can also contact the show through Instagram or Twitter, @nicupodcast. Or contact Ben and Daphna directly via their Twitter profiles: @drnicu and @doctordaphnamd. The papers discussed in today's episode are listed and timestamped on the webpage linked below.

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    23 min
  • #441 - Is Two Years Enough? Fellowship Directors Respond to the ABP’s Proposed Training Overhaul

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    The American Board of Pediatrics (ABP) recently announced a move toward competency-based subspecialty training that would shorten fellowships — including neonatology — from three years to two. The proposal has sent shockwaves through the training community. In this episode, Daphna sits down with three leaders from the Organization of Neonatal Perinatal Training Program Directors (ONTPD): Dr. Patrick Myers from Northwestern, Dr. Heather French from the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, and Dr. Melissa Scala from Stanford. Together, they break down what competency-based medical education actually means in practice, why the math simply doesn't add up when applied to neonatology, and what this could mean for procedural training, scholarly activity, fellow well-being, and ultimately patient care. They also address the workforce concerns driving the ABP's proposal, share survey data from program directors across the country, and offer concrete alternative pathways forward. The message from the field is clear: the community wants to innovate — but they want a seat at the table first.

    Support the show

    As always, feel free to send us questions, comments, or suggestions to our email: [email protected]. You can also contact the show through Instagram or Twitter, @nicupodcast. Or contact Ben and Daphna directly via their Twitter profiles: @drnicu and @doctordaphnamd. The papers discussed in today's episode are listed and timestamped on the webpage linked below.

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    48 min
  • #440 - 🔵 [PAS 2026] - What Goes Into Planning the Biggest Pediatric Conference in the World?

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    Dr. Daniel Rauch, PAS 2026 program chair, joins Ben for a behind-the-scenes look at what it takes to pull off a conference of this scale — and what he's learned from this year's record-breaking attendance in Boston. He reflects on the sessions that packed rooms beyond capacity, from the Tiny Baby Collaborative to AI in pediatrics, and shares what's on the horizon for PAS 2027 in Minneapolis and PAS 2028 in Vancouver. He also makes the case for why PAS remains uniquely valuable for trainees and early career clinicians — not just for the science, but for the cross-disciplinary hallway conversations that become next year's publications — and highlights the steps the conference is taking to be more inclusive, from closed captioning and a first-ever Spanish language session to on-site daycare and mobility devices for attendees with ambulatory difficulties.

    Support the show

    As always, feel free to send us questions, comments, or suggestions to our email: [email protected]. You can also contact the show through Instagram or Twitter, @nicupodcast. Or contact Ben and Daphna directly via their Twitter profiles: @drnicu and @doctordaphnamd. The papers discussed in today's episode are listed and timestamped on the webpage linked below.

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    13 min

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A weekly discussion about new evidence in neonatal care and the fascinating individuals who make this progress possible. Hosted by Dr. Ben Courchia and Dr. Daphna Yasova Barbeau.

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