Victoria Summer Leonardo is an international model who spent over a decade traveling the world, working in the fashion industry, and later embarked on a mission to promote health and well-being.

Our conversation explores her experiences in the modeling world, the challenges of constant travel, her decision to go sober at 21, and her passion for health, mindset, and meaningful relationships. This episode is a powerful insight into breaking societal norms and that external validation will never replace inner peace and purpose.

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Doug Gottlieb is an American basketball analyst, sports talk radio host and head men's basketball coach at the University of Wisconsin–Green Bay. Gottlieb played NCAA collegiate basketball, twice leading the nation in assists, and professionally in the USBL as well as overseas in Russia, Israel, & France.

In this episode we discuss the beauty and excitement in life when you’re scrappy, how Doug got a dream ESPN job at age 26, and how having the guts to go for something backed up by action will give you amazing opportunities in life! We also touch on how media presence impacts recruiting, the evolution of sports talk radio, and his philosophy on building relationships with his players.

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Gerard Adams an entrepreneur, angel investor, leadershipmentor, and philanthropist, known for co-founding EliteDaily.com.

Gerard shares his journey from selling Elite Daily for $50 million to finding deeper purpose in mentorship and men's coaching. He discusses the transformation from a fast-paced, success-driven mindset in his 20s to a more intentional and mission-driven focus in his 30s and 40s. Our conversation covers personal growth, fatherhood, faith, financial wisdom, and the importance of brotherhood among men.

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Brandon Turner is one of the most well-known names in real estate investing, having built a portfolio of over 14,000 units and co-hosted BiggerPockets, one of the most downloaded real estate podcasts ever coming in at over 100 Million downloads.

In this conversation, Brandon shares insights on scaling a real estate business, managing risk, and why treating real estate like a true business is key to success within the industry. He also offers practical advice for new investors and podcasters looking to grow their platforms, highlighting key points that helped BiggerPockets to amass such a large following.

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Ben Kjar is a professional wrestler and motivational speaker that was born with Crouzon syndrome (a craniofacial anomaly). As a young boy the doctors told him that he would live a different life.....and that’s exactly what he’s done! He has risen above life’s challenges and become a Victor instead of a victim. His story is told in his documentary that just had its Hollywood premiere, "Standout: The Ben Kjar Story".

Ben shares his inspiring journey of overcoming adversity, living with Crouzon syndrome, and embracing life with a champion mindset. He discusses how challenges shaped his character, the importance of self-belief, and his mission to empower others to rise above their circumstances. His story highlights resilience and the mindset needed to defy expectations, improve self-acceptance, and achieve greatness.

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Dan Dunn is the former CEO at Harness Power and a leader in the solar industry. Additionally Dan is a musician, and member of We Are The They.

We discuss Dan’s entrepreneurial journey, his passion for music, and deeply personal stories, including his father’s struggles with being a closeted gay man in the LDS church. We also explore Dan's experiences with plant medicine and his ongoing pursuit of creativity and self-awareness. We touch on the concept of masculine and feminine energies, and why men should embrace their full spectrum of emotions for healthier connections and personal fulfillment.

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Meili Workman is a cast member of Season 5 of Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.

We discuss Meili's unexpected journey to reality TV, her experience on the show, and how her non-confrontational nature clashed with the show's drama-driven format. Meili opens up about her shift toward homesteading and homeschooling, how cancel culture came after her for old social media posts, and why she believes in deep, meaningful conversations over surface-level interactions.

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In this episode of Real Men, Real Conversations, we explore the growing trend of young men shifting politically to the right. Ultimately, it comes down to four key reasons: economic realities of young men, rejection of woke ideology, choosing self-reliance over dependency, and a loss of trust in traditional media and politics. Young men are responding to societal narratives that devalue masculinity, and they're starting to wake up.

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Sean Collins is the Co-Founder of Fat Cats Entertainment and Costa Vida, which has grown to over 100 franchise locations. Sean currently sits as CEO and Chairman of the Board of Costa Vida.

We discuss Sean’s entrepreneurial journey, the importance of guest experience in business, the challenges of leadership, and the principles that have helped him scale his companies while maintaining quality. Sean also shares leadership insights from his time as a mission president and how he applies leadership lessons from both business and faith.

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Bubba Page is a serial entrepreneur, the Founder of Influence.vc, angel investor, and father of eight.

Bubba shares his journey as a business leader, his experiences navigating divorce, and his passion for helping fathers become more intentional leaders. We discuss topics from masculinity, faith, fatherhood, and financial literacy, with insights on balancing business success with family life, the importance of structured fatherhood, and smart investing strategies.

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