From Frenzy to Reality, The Industrial Market Rest Explainedwith Howard Schwimmer, Founder and Former Co-CEO of Rexford Industrial and Founder of S5 Industrial Realty Inc. We discuss:

• Why small bay industrial is becoming the mostcompetitive sector in real estate
• Why the best deals never hit the market—and howproactive outreach still beats AI and algorithms
• Why finding quality real estate is too nuancedfor AI to replace
• What the “post-COVID hangover” in industrialreally means—and whether this is a correction or an opportunity

Learn more about Howard:

Connect with Howard on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/howard-schwimmer-b0100414/

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In each episode of The Kirsh Connection, Andrew Kirshinterviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.

Don't miss an episode of The Kirsh Connection:

• Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM

• Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j

• Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/sh...

• Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnU

Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and isthe Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.

• Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/

• Connect with Andrew on Twitter: https://x.com/atkirsh

• Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/profession...

• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp

• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/?hl=en

The Kirsh Connection is produced and edited by Ashley Thays

Riches in the Niches: How Alex Valner, President andManaging Partner of Center Capital Partners, Finds Outsized Returns Where Others Aren’t Looking.  We Discuss:

Airfields = Beachfront Property — Why aviation realestate may be one of the most scarce and overlooked assets in the market

Hunting Where the Giants Aren’t — Winning in the lowermiddle market while large-cap private equity sits on the sidelines

Core-Plus… with Opportunistic Returns? — The playbookfor outperforming without taking headline risk

Asset First, Team Second — The sequencing behindbuilding a scalable investment platform

Learn more about Alex:

• Center Capital: https://www.centercp.com/the-team
• Connect with Alex on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-valner-bb65804b/

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In each episode of The Kirsh Connection, Andrew Kirshinterviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.

Don't miss an episode of The Kirsh Connection:

• Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM

• Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j

• Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/sh...

• Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnU 

Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and isthe Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.

• Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/

• Connect with Andrew on Twitter: https://x.com/atkirsh

• Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/profession...

• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp

• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/?hl=en

The Kirsh Connection is produced and edited by Ashley Thays

Founders, Family, and a Fast-Growing Brand: The Hugh & Grace Playbook, My Conversation with Founders Ben and Sara Jensen.  We discuss:

• The problem with “wellness” today – and why Hugh & Grace had to be built from scratch
• They walked away from it all – Beverly Hills to RV parks, betting everything on a vision
• We’re not that different – the overlooked truth that could change how we see everyone
• What does it actually mean to win? – a raw rethink of success beyond money and status

Learn more about Ben & Sara:

• Hugh & Grace: https://hughandgrace.com/
• Connect with Sara on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarajensen1
• Connect with Ben on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjensen1/

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In each episode of The Kirsh Connection, Andrew Kirshinterviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today's market, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance for newcomers to the industry.

Don't miss an episode of The Kirsh Connection:

• Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM

• Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j

• Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/sh...

• Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnU

Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and isthe Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutiquelaw firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment,bankruptcy, and litigation.

• Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/

• Connect with Andrew on Twitter: https://x.com/atkirsh

• Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/profession...

• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp

• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/?hl=en

The Kirsh Connection is produced and edited by Ashley Thays

Hollywood Meets Real Estate: The Future of Studio & Officewith Victor Coleman, CEO of Hudson Pacific Properties. We discuss:

• The Arden Exit: Inside the GE/BlackstoneAcquisition—and the Legendary Dubai Celebration
• Why Bet on Public Markets Again? Victor’s SecondAct After Arden Realty
• Is L.A. Office Next—or Still Stuck? BreakingDown the SF Comeback Comparison
• Did L.A. Fumble the Entertainment Industry? WhyProduction Is Leaving
• Against the Grain: Why HPP Is Leaning Back IntoOffice

Connect with Victor Coleman:

Hudson Pacific Properties: https://investors.hudsonpacificproperties.com/leadership-and-governance/executive-management/default.aspx

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/victor-coleman

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Don't miss an episode of The Kirsh Connection:

• Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM

• Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j

• Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/sh...

• Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnU 

Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and isthe Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.

• Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/

• Connect with Andrew on Twitter: https://x.com/atkirsh

• Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/profession...

• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp

• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/?hl=en

The Kirsh Connection is produced and edited by Ashley Thays.

What It Takes to Build and Scale a Multifamily Platform, My Conversation with Jeff Weller – Co-Founder of Lion Real Estate. In this episode, we discuss:

• From Syndications to Discretionary Capital — Why Lion has shifted toward fund structures to move faster and control execution
• Buying from Banks in Today’s Market — How dislocation is creating opportunities and what it takes to win deals from lenders
• Sunbelt vs. Coastal Performance — Where Lion is seeing strength today and how market dynamics are reshaping returns
• Start in Asset Management, Not the Boardroom — Why getting your hands dirty is still the best path to building a real estate career

Connect with Jeff Weller:Lion Real Estate Group: https://www.lionreg.com/bio/jeff-wellerLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-weller-84aa476/********************************************************Don't miss an episode of The Kirsh Connection: • Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM • Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j • Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/sh... • Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnU Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation. • Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/ • Connect with Andrew on Twitter: https://x.com/atkirsh • Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/profession... • Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp • Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/?hl=enThe Kirsh Connection is produced and edited by Ashley Thays.

Ocean West’s Strategy for Deploying Global Capital Across Asset Diversification, my conversation with Russ Allegrete, Principal and Co-Founder of Ocean West Capital Partners.

In this episode of The Kirsh Connection, Russ and I discuss:

• Why Ocean West Focuses on Multiple Asset Classes and the Entire Capital Stack

• The Five-Year Journey to Winning Korean Institutional Capital

• Investors Can Deal with New Legislation — But Not Uncertainty

• Key to Real Estate: Follow the Demographics

Connect with Russ:

Ocean West: https://oceanwestcp.com/team/russ-allegrette/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ocean-west-capital-partners/

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Don't miss an episode of The Kirsh Connection:

• Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM

• Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j

• Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/sh...

• Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnU

Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.

• Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/

• Connect with Andrew on Twitter: https://x.com/atkirsh

• Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/profession...

• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp

• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/?hl=en

The Kirsh Connection is produced and edited by Ashley Thays.

My Discussion with Jeff Marks – CEO of Innovative Partnerships Group. We Discuss:

• How stadium naming rights evolved into a multi-billion-dollar asset class
• What differentiates Innovative Partnerships Group from the global agencies
• A breakdown of the billions of dollars in sponsorship and naming-rights deals Jeff has structured
• Why COIs are the holy grail of sports-venue monetization — and how they’re unlocked

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Don't miss an episode of The Kirsh Connection:

• Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM

• Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j

• Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/sh...

• Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnU

Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and is the Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutique law firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment, bankruptcy, and litigation.

• Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/

• Connect with Andrew on Twitter: https://x.com/atkirsh

• Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/profession...

• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp

• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/?hl=en

The Kirsh Connection is produced and edited by Ashley Thays.

In this episode of Real Talk, we talk with Dan Joseph and EliMoghavem from Apparent Base.

We discuss:

• The complementary roles of infrastructure, experience,and capital in building a scalable private credit platform
• Why new acquisition capital beats recap risk intoday’s market
• How bespoke pref equity and mezz structuressolve real borrower problems
• Why regulatory risk is more concerning thanoversupply in underwriting decisions

Learn more about Dan:

View Dan’s bio on Apparent’s website: https://www.apparentcapital.com/our-people/

Connect with Dan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-joseph-corridor/

Learn more about Eli:

View Eli’s bio on Apparent’s website: https://www.apparentcapital.com/our-people/

Connect with Eli on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elimoghavem/

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In each episode of Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions, AndrewKirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today'smarket, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance fornewcomers to the industry.

Don't miss an episode of Real Talk:

• Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM

• Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j

• Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/sh...

• Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnU

Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and isthe Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutiquelaw firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment,bankruptcy, and litigation.

• Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/

• Connect with Andrew on Twitter: https://x.com/atkirsh

• Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/profession...

• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp

• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/?hl=en

Real Talk is produced and edited by Ashley Thays.

In this episode of Real Talk, we talk with Sean Fulp, VicePresident at Colliers and Founder of Duxre.

We discuss:

• How he landed lender special servicers asclients
• Why the office market is coming back
• Why not buying office in 2026 could be amiss
• How Duxre is unifying CRE tech into a purpose-builtoperating system

Learn more about Sean:

• View Sean’s bio on Collier’s website: https://www.colliers.com/en/experts/sean-fulp
• Connect with Sean on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/seanfulp/

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In each episode of Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions, AndrewKirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today'smarket, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance fornewcomers to the industry.

Don't miss an episode of Real Talk:

• Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM

• Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j

• Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/sh...

• Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnU

Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and isthe Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutiquelaw firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment,bankruptcy, and litigation.

• Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/

• Connect with Andrew on Twitter: https://x.com/atkirsh

• Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/profession...

• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp

• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/?hl=en

Real Talk is produced and edited by Ashley Thays.

In this episode of Real Talk, we go from music executive to multifamily CEO with Larry Jacobson, President and CEO of Jacobson Equities.

We discuss:    

•  Running Giant Records (Time Warner)
• Managing iconic artists – Lessons learning fromworking with Avenged Sevenfold, Alanis Morrissette, Slash, and Michael Bolton that still shape how Larry leads today
• Music vs real estate – Why the two industriesare more alike than people think
• Breaking into student housing
• Why Poway works – Focused take on demographics,supply constraints, and why this San Diego submarket stands out

Learn more about Larry:

• View Larry’s bio on Jacobson’s website: https://jacobsonequities.com/leadership/larry-jacobson/
• Connect with Larry on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/larry-jacobson-968696/

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In each episode of Real Talk: Real Estate Discussions, AndrewKirsh interviews industry leaders to learn their real-time opinions on today'smarket, their background and unique career highlights, and guidance fornewcomers to the industry.

Don't miss an episode of Real Talk:

• Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3GT1hoM

• Listen on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3OQrd6j

• Listen on Anchor: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/sh...

• Listen on Listen Notes: https://lnns.co/7ICHmPQyXnU

Andrew Kirsh is a founding partner of Sklar Kirsh LLP and isthe Chair of the firm’s Real Estate Department. Sklar Kirsh LLP is a boutiquelaw firm providing services in corporate law, real estate, entertainment,bankruptcy, and litigation.

• Connect with Andrew on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewkirsh/

• Connect with Andrew on Twitter: https://x.com/atkirsh

• Visit Andrew's business website: https://www.sklarkirsh.com/profession...

• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/sklar-kirsh-llp

• Follow Sklar Kirsh LLP on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sklarkirsh/?hl=en

Real Talk is produced and edited by Ashley Thays.