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Why are Black men so rarely seen in leadership roles in our schools? In this episode, Dr. Paulie teams up with Dr. Bruce Tinor, a trailblazing school principal and behavior analyst—perhaps the only Black man to hold both distinctions. In it, they dissect the complex layers of systemic barriers and historical patterns that contribute to this significant underrepresentation. More importantly, they explore the potential profound impact of having Black male leaders in educational settings, discussing how their presence can enhance student outcomes, school culture, and more. Armed with Dr. Tinor’s unique insights and my behavior analysis expertise, we offer actionable strategies to dismantle these barriers. Tune in for a candid, enlightening conversation that not only challenges the status quo but also champions a vision for diverse and dynamic educational leadership.