The Pomp Podcast

Anthony and John Pompliano discuss why bitcoin is going higher, why Ken Griffin and Paul Tudor-Jones are so bullish, how to enjoy the bull market while preparing for a storm, why the government will never stop printing money, and why asset prices are going higher. 

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Polkadot is a scalable, secure, and decentralized blockchain technology aimed at creating Web3. Created by Gavin Wood, co-founder of Ethereum, Polkadot empowers users to build decentralized applications with ease. Backed by industry leaders, making it a preferred choice for big names, Polkadot stands out as a leading choice for investors seeking a reliable, future-proof solution in the growing world of Web3 technology. Learn more at https://polkadot.com/.

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BitcoinIRA: Buy, sell, and swap 75+ cryptocurrencies in your retirement account. Take 3 minutes to open your account & get connected to a team of IRA specialists that will guide you through every step of the process. Go to https://bitcoinira.com/pomp/ to earn up to $500 in rewards.

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 - Intro
• 0:54 - Bitcoin reaches all-time high!
• 4:43 - Will bitcoin be bigger than gold?
• 6:36 - Wall Street is now waking up to bitcoin
• 11:38 - BlackRock is now a bitcoin company
• 14:55 - How should investors be thinking about allocation
• 21:07 - How to protect from downside volatility & Q4 outlook
• 26:42 - Why September had best performance in 15 years
• 32:51 - Can you sleep through the storm?

Jeb Hensarling is the former Chairman of the House Financial Services Committee and one of the most influential voices in economic policy during the 2008 financial crisis. He has also joined ProCap BTC as a Senior Advisor. In this conversation, we talk about how Jeb pushed back against the bank bailouts, how those same issues led to the rise of bitcoin, his views on bitcoin, stablecoins, the broader crypto industry, and how technology and innovation are reshaping the financial system today.

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Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Mining or to get started mining Bitcoin, visit https://www.simplemining.io/

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Xapo Bank, the world’s first fully licensed Bitcoin-enabled bank, offers military-grade security with an unmatched blend of physical and digital security, as well as pioneering regulatory oversight, so your funds are always protected. Beyond secure storage, they enable you to grow and use your Bitcoin. Earn daily interest in Bitcoin, spend with zero FX fees using a global card, and make instant payments via the Lightning Network for unrivalled access and convenience. Visit ⁠https://www.xapobank.com/pomp⁠ to join.

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 - Intro
• 2:25 - 2008 bank bailouts & Satoshi
• 6:21 - QE playbook & constant intervention
• 10:39 - Bitcoin as protection & property rights
• 17:11 - GENIUS Act & advice for industry regulation
• 24:36 - How to get lawmakers educated
• 28:11 - Why stablecoins matter for America & bitcoin
• 33:34 - How to think through a US bitcoin strategic reserve
• 38:39 - Opportunities in the intersection of finance and technology
• 43:25 - Choosing optimism & why Jeb is Long America

Jordi Visser is a macro investor with over 30 years of Wall Street experience. He also writes a Substack called “VisserLabs” and puts out investing YouTube videos. In this conversation we talk about why bitcoin is the purest AI trade available in the market, energy infrastructure, what is going on with the government shutdown, how interest rates, the Fed, the economy are all intertwined, and why prediction markets and tokenization are two big themes moving forward.

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Check out my NEW show for daily bite-sized breakdowns of the biggest stories in finance, technology, and politics: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://pompdesk.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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This episode is brought to you by Figure (https://figuremarkets.co/pomp), the platform to Earn and Borrow. Need liquidity without selling your crypto? Figure offers Crypto-Backed Loans, allowing you to borrow against your Bitcoin or Ethereum with 12-month terms and no prepayment penalties. They have the lowest rates in the industry at 8.91%, allowing you to access instant cash or buy more Bitcoin without triggering a tax event. Your BTC collateral is protected by decentralized MPC custody. You can always see your BTC ownership in your FM account and verify holdings in your personal BTC vault on chain. Unlock your crypto’s potential today. Visit their app to apply (https://figuremarkets.co/pomp) for a Crypto Backed Loan (https://figuremarkets.co/pomp) today! Figure Lending LLC dba Figure. Equal Opportunity Lender. NMLS 1717824. Terms and conditions apply. Visit figure.com for more information. Figure Markets Credit LLC. 650 S. Tryon Street, 8th Floor, Charlotte, NC 28202. (888) 926-6259. NMLS ID 2559612. Terms and conditions apply. Visit https://figuremarkets.com/borrow for more information.

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Xapo Bank, the world’s first fully licensed Bitcoin-enabled bank, offers military-grade security with an unmatched blend of physical and digital security, as well as pioneering regulatory oversight, so your funds are always protected. Beyond secure storage, they enable you to grow and use your Bitcoin. Earn daily interest in Bitcoin, spend with zero FX fees using a global card, and make instant payments via the Lightning Network for unrivalled access and convenience. Visit https://www.xapobank.com/pomp to join.

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 - Intro
• 1:58 - Why bitcoin is the purest AI trade
• 12:37 - The impact of new energy infrastructure
• 17:47 - How Base Power is building a decentralized grid and other opportunities for investors
• 24:43 - Why retail spots themes before institutions
• 33:27 - Retail orange-pilling each other in public
• 38:19 - What is the impact of government shutdown on financial markets?
• 41:19 - The rise of prediction markets and tokenization
• 50:22 - Where to follow Jordi on the internet

Jeff Park is a Partner and Chief Investing Officer of ProCap BTC. In this conversation we talk about what is going on with bitcoin and gold, should we be worried about bitcoin lagging gold’s performance, how to think about bitcoin as living software, durability of bitcoin vs gold, and a new theme referencing the retardification of society. 

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Core is the leading Bitcoin scaling solution, enabling you to lock in yield by locking up your Bitcoin. Simply lock it on the Bitcoin blockchain to secure the Core network, and get rewards. No bridging. No lending. Just holding. Still your keys. Still your coins. Now your yield. Start at https://stake.coredao.org/pomp

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BitcoinIRA: Buy, sell, and swap 75+ cryptocurrencies in your retirement account. Take 3 minutes to open your account & get connected to a team of IRA specialists that will guide you through every step of the process. Go to https://bitcoinira.com/pomp/ to earn up to $500 in rewards.

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 - Intro

• 2:02 - Why gold is ripping and bitcoin is lagging behind

• 8:11 - Global financial markets and why London is struggling

• 14:23 - Durability of gold, fiat, & bitcoin

• 17:25 - Will bitcoin catch up to gold?

• 26:44 - How investors view bitcoin as living, breathing software

• 37:51 - The impact of the retardification of society on financial markets

Robert Viglione is the Co-Founder & CEO at Horizen Labs, and the Founder of zkVerify . In this conversation we talk about zero-knowledge proofs, why they are critical for U.S. national security, how this technology allows machines to share information without revealing data, Rob’s experience as a military intelligence officer in Afghanistan, how he discovered the value of Bitcoin, and why ZKPs are one of the most underrated technologies shaping the future.

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Check out my NEW show for daily bite-sized breakdowns of the biggest stories in finance, technology, and politics: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://pompdesk.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Bitizenship helps Bitcoin-forward investors gain EU residency and a path to Portuguese citizenship in five years while maintaining exposure to Bitcoin. Their regulated fund qualifies you for the Golden Visa through an operating company focused on Bitcoin-native innovation. Book a free strategy call at https://bitizenship.com/pomp.

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Bitwise is one of the largest and fastest-growing crypto asset managers, with more than $15 billion in client assets across an expanding suite of investment solutions—including the world’s largest crypto index fund—plus products spanning Bitcoin, Ethereum, DeFi, and crypto equities. In addition to managing assets, Bitwise helps investors stay informed about the fast-moving crypto market. Every week, CIO Matt Hougan breaks down what’s happening in crypto in five minutes or less. Read the latest at https://experts.bitwiseinvestments.com/cio-memos. Certain Bitwise investment products may be subject to the extreme risks associated with investing in crypto assets. Visit https://bitwiseinvestments.com/disclosures to learn more.

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 - Intro
• 2:28 - ZK proofs and bitcoin & crypto in Afghanistan
• 7:25 - National security use cases
• 10:42 - Biggest areas for opportunity
• 14:45 - AI, proof of human & machine
• 20:25 - Why blockchain is so valuable
• 24:44 - What are some technical obstacles?
• 27:17 - How to cut costs and improve efficiency
• 30:33 - Bitcoin integration & future tech

Anthony and John Pompliano discuss why bitcoin's price is not going up faster, what is going on with gold, how Wall Street is embracing crypto public equities, how we fix economic data, and should we be worried about the government shutdown?

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Check out my NEW show for daily bite-sized breakdowns of the biggest stories in finance, technology, and politics: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://pompdesk.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Bitlayer is taking Bitcoin beyond just a store of value. For the first time, you can put your Bitcoin to work, earning yield while staying true to its core principles of security and decentralization. Bitlayer is making Bitcoin DeFi a reality. Learn more at https://x.com/BitlayerLabs

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Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Mining or to get started mining Bitcoin, visit https://www.simplemining.io/

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 - Intro
• 0:22 - What’s happening with bitcoin’s price?
• 4:45 - How should investors be thinking about Bitcoin?
• 9:16 - Bitcoin related public companies
• 15:35 - Regulation in crypto
• 19:52 - Potential government shutdown
• 27:56 - Government data is wrong
• 34:03 - Government using private market data

Jordi Visser is a macro investor with over 30 years of Wall Street experience. He also writes a Substack called “VisserLabs” and puts out investing YouTube videos. In this conversation we discuss bitcoin outlook for rest of the year, interest rate cuts, how to evaluate AI acceleration, Nvidia’s $100 billion deal with OpenAI, and what metrics investors should keep an eye on.

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Check out my NEW show for daily bite-sized breakdowns of the biggest stories in finance, technology, and politics: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://pompdesk.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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This episode is brought to you by Figure ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(https://figuremarkets.co/pomp)⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, the platform to Earn and Borrow. Need liquidity without selling your crypto? Figure offers Crypto-Backed Loans, allowing you to borrow against your Bitcoin or Ethereum with 12-month terms and no prepayment penalties. They have the lowest rates in the industry at 8.91%, allowing you to access instant cash or buy more Bitcoin without triggering a tax event.Your BTC collateral is protected by decentralized MPC custody. You can always see your BTC ownership in your FM account and verify holdings in your personal BTC vault on chain. Unlock your crypto’s potential today. Visit their app to apply ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(https://figuremarkets.co/pomp)⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for a Crypto Backed Loan today! Figure Lending LLC dba Figure. Equal Opportunity Lender. NMLS 1717824. Terms and conditions apply. Visit figure.com for more information. Figure Markets Credit LLC. 650 S. Tryon Street, 8th Floor, Charlotte, NC 28202. (888) 926-6259. NMLS ID 2559612. Terms and conditions apply. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://figuremarkets.com/borrow⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for more information.

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Bitlayer is taking Bitcoin beyond just a store of value. For the first time, you can put your Bitcoin to work, earning yield while staying true to its core principles of security and decentralization. Bitlayer is making Bitcoin DeFi a reality. Learn more at https://x.com/BitlayerLabs

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Bitwise is one of the largest and fastest-growing crypto asset managers. As of December 31, 2021, the company managed over $1.3 billion across an expanding suite of investment solutions, which include the world's largest crypto index fund and other innovative products spanning Bitcoin, Ethereum, DeFi, and crypto equities. Whether you’re an individual, advisor, or institution, Bitwise provides intelligent access to crypto with your unique circumstances in mind. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bitwiseinvestments.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn more. Certain of the Bitwise investment products may be subject to the extreme risks associated with investing in crypto assets. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bitwiseinvestments.com/disclosures⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn more.

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TimeStamps:

• 0:00 - Intro
• 1:31 - Interest rate cut and market sentiment
• 4:20 - Bullish on bitcoin in Q4?
• 5:54 - How to evaluate AI companies
• 8:14 - October outlook and uncertainty in the market
• 12:15 - Evaluating AI replacing human jobs
• 26:01 - Thoughts on Nvidia’s $100 billion OpenAI deal
• 35:30 - Merging between AI & bitcoin mining
• 39:04 - Are we going to continue seeing an economic boom?
• 44:11 - What metrics should investors be keeping an eye on?
• 47:38 - Thoughts on government getting involved with AI businesses
• 50:27 - What models and tools are Jordi using?

Jeff Park is a Partner and Chief Investing Officer of ProCap BTC. In this conversation we talk about what’s going on with bitcoin, bitcoin treasury M&A, recent liquidation in the market, stablecoins, Tether, and is the bull market over? 

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Check out my NEW show for daily bite-sized breakdowns of the biggest stories in finance, technology, and politics: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://pompdesk.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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BitcoinIRA: Buy, sell, and swap 75+ cryptocurrencies in your retirement account. Take 3 minutes to open your account & get connected to a team of IRA specialists that will guide you through every step of the process. Go to https://bitcoinira.com/pomp/ to earn up to $500 in rewards.

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Core is the leading Bitcoin scaling solution, enabling you to lock in yield by locking up your Bitcoin. Simply lock it on the Bitcoin blockchain to secure the Core network, and get rewards. No bridging. No lending. Just holding. Still your keys. Still your coins. Now your yield. Start at https://stake.coredao.org/pomp

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Anthony and John Pompliano discuss bitcoin, why gold has been doing so well, Strive buying Semler Scientific, bitcoin treasury companies, and can AI replace the Fed? 

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Check out my NEW show for daily bite-sized breakdowns of the biggest stories in finance, technology, and politics: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://pompdesk.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Mining or to get started mining Bitcoin, visit ⁠https://www.simplemining.io/⁠

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BitcoinOS is bringing Bitcoin into a new era. For the first time, Bitcoiners can access real DeFi across the entire crypto ecosystem, powered by revolutionary zero-knowledge technology. No more trusting sketchy bridges or giving up security. BitcoinOS reunites all of crypto around the chain where it all began. Follow BitcoinOS on twitter @BTC_OS and Be early to Bitcoin again.

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Polkadot is a scalable, secure, and decentralized blockchain technology aimed at creating Web3. Created by Gavin Wood, co-founder of Ethereum, Polkadot empowers users to build decentralized applications with ease. Backed by industry leaders, making it a preferred choice for big names, Polkadot stands out as a leading choice for investors seeking a reliable, future-proof solution in the growing world of Web3 technology. Learn more at https://polkadot.com/.

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TimeStamps:

• 0:00 – Intro

• 1:23 – What is going on with bitcoin vs gold?

• 15:08 – How to analyze bitcoin 4 year cycle

• 18:55 – Strive buying Semler Scientific

• 32:31 – Could AI replace the Fed?

Mike Novogratz is the Founder & CEO of Galaxy. Kyle Samani is the Chairman of Forward Industries and the Co-Founder & Managing Partner at Multicoin Capital. In this conversation we talk about the $1.65 billion fundraise they recently did, how big these treasury companies can get, why they love Solana, tokenization, plans for the company, risks, and how they are going to generate shareholder returns.

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Check out my NEW show for daily bite-sized breakdowns of the biggest stories in finance, technology, and politics: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://pompdesk.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Mining or to get started mining Bitcoin, visit https://www.simplemining.io/

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Xapo Bank, the world’s first fully licensed Bitcoin-enabled bank, offers military-grade security with an unmatched blend of physical and digital security, as well as pioneering regulatory oversight, so your funds are always protected. Beyond secure storage, they enable you to grow and use your Bitcoin. Earn daily interest in Bitcoin, spend with zero FX fees using a global card, and make instant payments via the Lightning Network for unrivalled access and convenience. Visit https://www.xapobank.com/pomp to join.

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TimeStamps:

• 0:00 - Intro
• 2:00 - Raising $1.65 billion for the largest Solana treasury company
• 5:12 - Explaining market cap vs price of token
• 6:10 - Why volume is so important for a public company
• 8:27 - Forward launching tokenized shares on Solana with Superstate
• 9:23 - How big can altcoin treasury companies get?
• 14:13 - Crypto entering Wall Street and plans to create value
• 20:28 - What are some risks?
• 26:47 - Is the 4 year bitcoin cycle over?
• 30:36 - Advice and how to think through investing in crypto