The Pomp Podcast

Jeff Park is the Partner and Chief Investment Officer at ProCap BTC. In this conversation, we dive into the current bitcoin market cycle — why price sentiment has shifted, whether younger investors are losing interest, and where the next wave of buyers could come from. Jeff also breaks down how both macro forces like interest rates and micro market dynamics are influencing bitcoin’s trajectory, and reacts to Scott Bessent’s viral tweet that might signal a turning point for crypto markets.

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Core is the leading Bitcoin scaling solution, enabling you to lock in yield by locking up your Bitcoin. Simply lock it on the Bitcoin blockchain to secure the Core network, and get rewards. No bridging. No lending. Just holding. Still your keys. Still your coins. Now your yield. Start at https://stake.coredao.org/pomp

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 - Intro
• 2:05 - Why is bitcoin’s price doing down?
• 10:17 - Competing trends: AI, prediction markets, and other investments
• 15:36 - How millennials and Gen Z view the financial system differently
• 21:31 - Has bitcoin been co-opted by Wall Street or politics?
• 26:09 - Scott Bessent’s bitcoin tweet and the search for young voices in crypto
• 30:38 - Does bitcoin’s price make it psychologically less appealing?
• 33:58 - What would it take for bitcoin to make new highs again?
• 35:14 - Is Jeff still bullish on bitcoin’s long-term future?

Anthony and John Pompliano break down today’s markets — from Scott Bessent’s U.S. outlook and Tom Lee’s bullish call to Jordi Visser’s take on Bitcoin’s “IPO moment.” They also cover job growth, mega themes, the New York City mayoral race, and Anthony’s latest thoughts on bitcoin and stocks.

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Bitwise is one of the largest and fastest-growing crypto asset managers, with more than $15 billion in client assets across an expanding suite of investment solutions—including the world’s largest crypto index fund—plus products spanning Bitcoin, Ethereum, DeFi, and crypto equities. In addition to managing assets, Bitwise helps investors stay informed about the fast-moving crypto market. Every week, CIO Matt Hougan breaks down what’s happening in crypto in five minutes or less. Read the latest at https://experts.bitwiseinvestments.com/cio-memos. Certain Bitwise investment products may be subject to the extreme risks associated with investing in crypto assets. Visit https://bitwiseinvestments.com/disclosures to learn more.

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In this episode, Pomp spotlights easyBitcoin.app—the app that pays you 1% extra on recurring buys, 2% annual bitcoin rewards, and 4.5% APY on USD. Download it now for iOS or Android at https://easybitcoin.onelink.me/F1zP/klc4v1p8 and start earning today. Your capital is at risk. Crypto markets are highly volatile. This content is informational and not financial advice.

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 – Intro
• 1:17 – Are we in a recession?
• 5:16 – Powell vs Bessent: interest rate politics
• 8:29 – The case for an economic boom
• 12:45 – Tom Lee’s $200K Bitcoin prediction
• 15:20 – Jordi Visser and Bitcoin’s “IPO moment”
• 19:01 – AI, data centers, and compute as the new commodity
• 24:40 – New York City mayoral election discussion

Shehzan Maredia is the Founder of Lava, a company building financial tools for Bitcoin holders who want to enjoy life without selling their BTC. In this conversation, we discuss how wealthy Bitcoiners are using innovative lending and credit solutions to buy homes, cars, and experiences — all while keeping their Bitcoin. Shahzad shares real stories, insights, and the broader vision behind enabling financial freedom without liquidation.

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This episode is brought to you by Figure (⁠⁠https://figuremarkets.co/pomp⁠⁠), the platform to Earn and Borrow. Need liquidity without selling your crypto? Figure offers Crypto-Backed Loans, allowing you to borrow against your Bitcoin, Ethereum, & SOL with 12-month terms and no prepayment penalties. They have the lowest rates in the industry at 8.91%, allowing you to access instant cash or buy more Bitcoin without triggering a tax event. Your BTC collateral is protected by decentralized MPC custody. You can always see your BTC ownership in your FM account and verify holdings in your personal BTC vault on chain. Unlock your crypto’s potential today. Visit their app to apply (⁠⁠https://figuremarkets.co/pomp⁠⁠) for a Crypto Backed Loan (⁠⁠https://figuremarkets.co/pomp⁠⁠) today! Figure Lending LLC dba Figure. Equal Opportunity Lender. NMLS 1717824. Terms and conditions apply. Visit figure.com for more information. Figure Markets Credit LLC. 650 S. Tryon Street, 8th Floor, Charlotte, NC 28202. (888) 926-6259. NMLS ID 2559612. Terms and conditions apply.

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 - Intro
• 2:36 - Who are high-net-worth bitcoiners?
• 8:24 – “Buy, borrow, die” wealth strategy
• 12:35 – How Lava’s bitcoin loan products work
• 18:22 – Lava’s new bitcoin line of credit
• 19:22 - Real examples of users borrowing for homes and cars
• 21:36 – How Lava makes money
• 24:30 – Why Lava focuses only on Bitcoin
• 26:15 – New bitcoin-backed credit card launch
• 30:05 - The simplicity of bitcoin

Jordi Visser is a macro investor with over 30 years of Wall Street experience. He also writes a Substack called “VisserLabs” and puts out investing YouTube videos. In this conversation, we unpack the Fed’s interest rate cuts, the U.S.–China trade dynamic, and what they signal for global markets. We also dive into the Bitcoin, AI, and tokenized assets — explaining how these forces, alongside Tesla’s innovations, are shaping the next major investment cycle.

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This episode is brought to you by Figure (⁠https://figuremarkets.co/pomp⁠), the platform to Earn and Borrow. Need liquidity without selling your crypto? Figure offers Crypto-Backed Loans, allowing you to borrow against your Bitcoin, Ethereum, & SOL with 12-month terms and no prepayment penalties. They have the lowest rates in the industry at 8.91%, allowing you to access instant cash or buy more Bitcoin without triggering a tax event. Your BTC collateral is protected by decentralized MPC custody. You can always see your BTC ownership in your FM account and verify holdings in your personal BTC vault on chain. Unlock your crypto’s potential today. Visit their app to apply (⁠https://figuremarkets.co/pomp⁠) for a Crypto Backed Loan (⁠https://figuremarkets.co/pomp⁠) today! Figure Lending LLC dba Figure. Equal Opportunity Lender. NMLS 1717824. Terms and conditions apply. Visit figure.com for more information. Figure Markets Credit LLC. 650 S. Tryon Street, 8th Floor, Charlotte, NC 28202. (888) 926-6259. NMLS ID 2559612. Terms and conditions apply.

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In this episode, Pomp spotlights easyBitcoin.app—the app that pays you 1% extra on recurring buys, 2% annual bitcoin rewards, and 4.5% APY on USD. Download it now for iOS or Android at https://easybitcoin.onelink.me/F1zP/klc4v1p8 and start earning today. Your capital is at risk. Crypto markets are highly volatile. This content is informational and not financial advice.

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DeFi Development Corp. (Nasdaq: DFDV) is pioneering a new category in crypto investing with the first Solana-focused Digital Asset Treasury. DFDV offers public market exposure to Solana’s growth, yield, and onchain innovation, offering investors a leveraged way to participate in a trillion-dollar opportunity. Learn more about why Solana and why DFDV at ⁠SolanaTo10K.com⁠.

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 - Intro
• 1:14 - Fed rate cut and market reaction
• 3:40 - US - China trade agreement and impact 
• 7:00 - How to navigate government shutdown, labor market, and AI 
• 21:09 – Generational divide, wealth gap, and rise of socialism in politics
• 25:52 – Bitcoin sentiment and why investors are frustrated
• 32:27 – Tokenization, stablecoins, and the future of payments 
• 37:46 – Token revolution and the merging of AI & crypto  
• 41:33 – Tesla, robo-taxis, and the future of self-driving cars

Brett Tejpaul is the Co-CEO of Coinbase Institutional, leading one of the most influential divisions shaping how major firms enter the crypto market. In this conversation, we explore how Coinbase is driving institutional adoption of digital assets — from bitcoin and altcoins to tokenized securities and on-chain assets. Brett shares how the firm is preparing for the next wave of Wall Street entrants, what risks and opportunities lie ahead for Coinbase, and why the digital-asset treasury era is only just beginning.

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DeFi Development Corp. (Nasdaq: DFDV) is pioneering a new category in crypto investing with the first Solana-focused Digital Asset Treasury. DFDV offers public market exposure to Solana’s growth, yield, and onchain innovation, offering investors a leveraged way to participate in a trillion-dollar opportunity. Learn more about why Solana and why DFDV at SolanaTo10K.com.

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In this episode, Pomp spotlights easyBitcoin.app—the app that pays you 1% extra on recurring buys, 2% annual bitcoin rewards, and 4.5% APY on USD. Download it now for iOS or Android at https://easybitcoin.onelink.me/F1zP/klc4v1p8 and start earning today. Your capital is at risk. Crypto markets are highly volatile. This content is informational and not financial advice.

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 – Intro
• 2:02 – Coinbase’s institutional vs retail business
• 5:33 – Institutional demand for bitcoin and altcoins
• 10:20 – Tokenization and institutional adoption
• 15:49 – On-chain vs centralized infrastructure
• 19:44 – Legacy finance adapting to crypto
• 31:53 – Regulation, DC, and the Genius Act
• 37:17 – Are we at the finish line for mainstream adoption?
• 43:39 – Bitcoin as pristine collateral and institutional shift

Jeff Park is the Partner and Chief Investment Officer at ProCap BTC. In this conversation, we unpack why Strategy securing a credit rating marks a major milestone for Bitcoin adoption. Jeff breaks down what it means for corporate balance sheets, the upcoming Solana staking ETF, and how prediction markets are shaping global narratives — including the wild debate over whether Donald Trump might actually be Satoshi.

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Core is the leading Bitcoin scaling solution, enabling you to lock in yield by locking up your Bitcoin. Simply lock it on the Bitcoin blockchain to secure the Core network, and get rewards. No bridging. No lending. Just holding. Still your keys. Still your coins. Now your yield. Start at ⁠https://stake.coredao.org/pomp⁠

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 - Intro
• 1:58 - Importance of Strategy getting a credit rating
• 7:25 – What matters more: the logic or the rating itself?
• 14:14 - How investors can make money on this
• 19:41 - Solana staking ETFs enter the market
• 25:12 – How traditional firms will handle staking
• 31:47 – Prediction markets and Donald Trump being Satoshi?
• 37:11 - New York City mayoral election odds
• 45:52 – Coinbase’s UpOnly Podcast NFT and grabbing attention

Anthony and John Pompliano break down today’s markets — from DeFi and stablecoins reshaping finance to the U.S.–China trade deal and its impact on investors. We also discuss why sentiment is turning bullish, how to think about bitcoin and gold heading into year-end, and what White House Asset Management’s moves signal for the market.

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BitcoinIRA: Buy, sell, and swap 75+ cryptocurrencies in your retirement account. Take 3 minutes to open your account & get connected to a team of IRA specialists that will guide you through every step of the process. Go to https://bitcoinira.com/pomp/ to earn up to $500 in rewards.

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Core is the leading Bitcoin scaling solution, enabling you to lock in yield by locking up your Bitcoin. Simply lock it on the Bitcoin blockchain to secure the Core network, and get rewards. No bridging. No lending. Just holding. Still your keys. Still your coins. Now your yield. Start at https://stake.coredao.org/pomp

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 - Intro
• 0:32 - What is the DeFi Mullet?
• 9:38 - Centralization vs decentralization
• 12:59 - Stablecoin competition (USDC vs USDT)
• 25:37 - Bitcoin vs gold setup for end of 2025
• 31:11 - US – China trade deal and impact on markets
• 38:43 - White House Asset Management

Max Branzburg is the Head of Consumer Product at Coinbase, one of the most important companies in the crypto ecosystem. In this episode, we dive into how Coinbase is building the future of finance — from expanding bitcoin access to launching innovative products that bridge crypto and traditional markets. Max breaks down what’s driving Coinbase’s rapid product development, how they’re scaling to millions of users, and why the next wave of financial innovation will come from within crypto.

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As markets shift, headlines break, and interest rates swing, one thing stays true — opportunity is everywhere. At Arch Public, we help you do more than just buy and hold. Yes, our dynamic accumulation algorithms are built for long-term investors… but where we really shine? Our arbitrage algos — designed to farm volatility and turbocharge your core positions. The best part of Arch Public’s products is they are free! Yes, you heard that right, try Arch Public for free! Take advantage of wild moves in assets like $SOL, $SUI, and $DOGE, and use them to stack more Bitcoin — completely hands-free. Arch Public is already a preferred partner with Coinbase, Kraken, Gemini, and Robinhood, and our team is here to help you build smarter in any market. Visit Arch Public today, at ⁠https://www.archpublic.com⁠, your portfolio will thank you.

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Bitizenship helps Bitcoin-forward investors gain EU residency and a path to Portuguese citizenship in five years while maintaining exposure to Bitcoin. Their regulated fund qualifies you for the Golden Visa through an operating company focused on Bitcoin-native innovation. Book a free strategy call at https://bitizenship.com/pomp.

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 - Intro
• 1:59 – Coinbase product expansion & credit card launch
• 4:47 - Thinking through staking, DeFi lending, & on-chain integration
• 10:06 - How to borrow against Bitcoin
• 11:44 - Any potential risks?
• 15:45 - USDC rewards & yield
• 17:32 – Tokenization & real-world assets
• 24:51 – The “Everything Exchange” vision
• 26:53 - What are some challenges?
• 28:28 – Future of crypto & finance merging

Jordi Visser is a macro investor with over 30 years of Wall Street experience. He also writes a Substack called “VisserLabs” and puts out investing YouTube videos. In this conversation, we cover Tesla’s robo-taxis, inflation, interest rates, and the U.S.–China trade dynamic. Jordy also shares how he’s positioning his portfolio, and what Bitcoin, gold, and market psychology reveal about where investors are headed next.

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Check out my NEW show for daily bite-sized breakdowns of the biggest stories in finance, technology, and politics: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://pompdesk.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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This episode is brought to you by Figure (https://figuremarkets.co/pomp), the platform to Earn and Borrow. Need liquidity without selling your crypto? Figure offers Crypto-Backed Loans, allowing you to borrow against your Bitcoin, Ethereum, & SOL with 12-month terms and no prepayment penalties. They have the lowest rates in the industry at 8.91%, allowing you to access instant cash or buy more Bitcoin without triggering a tax event. Your BTC collateral is protected by decentralized MPC custody. You can always see your BTC ownership in your FM account and verify holdings in your personal BTC vault on chain. Unlock your crypto’s potential today. Visit their app to apply (https://figuremarkets.co/pomp) for a Crypto Backed Loan (https://figuremarkets.co/pomp) today! Figure Lending LLC dba Figure. Equal Opportunity Lender. NMLS 1717824. Terms and conditions apply. Visit figure.com for more information. Figure Markets Credit LLC. 650 S. Tryon Street, 8th Floor, Charlotte, NC 28202. (888) 926-6259. NMLS ID 2559612. Terms and conditions apply.

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As markets shift, headlines break, and interest rates swing, one thing stays true — opportunity is everywhere. At Arch Public, we help you do more than just buy and hold. Yes, our dynamic accumulation algorithms are built for long-term investors… but where we really shine? Our arbitrage algos — designed to farm volatility and turbocharge your core positions. The best part of Arch Public’s products is they are free! Yes, you heard that right, try Arch Public for free! Take advantage of wild moves in assets like $SOL, $SUI, and $DOGE, and use them to stack more Bitcoin — completely hands-free. Arch Public is already a preferred partner with Coinbase, Kraken, Gemini, and Robinhood, and our team is here to help you build smarter in any market. Visit Arch Public today, at https://www.archpublic.com, your portfolio will thank you.

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DeFi Development Corp. (Nasdaq: DFDV) is pioneering a new category in crypto investing with the first Solana-focused Digital Asset Treasury. DFDV offers public market exposure to Solana’s growth, yield, and onchain innovation, offering investors a leveraged way to participate in a trillion-dollar opportunity. Learn more about why Solana and why DFDV at SolanaTo10K.com.

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 - Intro
• 1:39 - Tesla and the rise of robotaxis
• 15:33 - How AI, abundance, and bitcoin connect
• 21:05 - Generational divide and government control
• 23:14 - Why AI adoption mirrors Bitcoin adoption
• 26:00 - Gold’s parabolic run and sharp pullback
• 29:27 - China–US trade deal impact on gold and markets
• 37:22 - Layoffs, future of automation, and wealth effect
• 43:06 - Who could be selling bitcoin right now?
• 48:58 - The inevitability of AI and the next wave of innovation

Mel Mattison is one of the leading macro strategists on the internet, known for his deep insights into global markets and digital assets. In this conversation, we discuss the rotation from gold into Bitcoin, the stabilization of the U.S. dollar and what it means for global capital flows, and the relationship between volatility and bull markets — including why higher volatility often signals the start of a new bull cycle.

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Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Mining or to get started mining Bitcoin, visit https://www.simplemining.io/

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BitcoinIRA: Buy, sell, and swap 75+ cryptocurrencies in your retirement account. Take 3 minutes to open your account & get connected to a team of IRA specialists that will guide you through every step of the process. Go to https://bitcoinira.com/pomp/ to earn up to $500 in rewards.

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 - Intro
• 1:57 - Gold’s historic run and rotation to bitcoin
• 14:01 - US dollar stabilization and foreign flows
• 19:02 - Relationship between volatility and bull markets
• 23:16 - Capital rotation and long-term outlook