The Pomp Podcast

Anthony and John Pompliano dig into whether markets have truly bottomed or if more pain is coming. They break down the economy, inflation, rates, politics, and immigration — and how all of it is shaping investor psychology right now. Plus, they unpack Mike Green’s argument that America’s real poverty line may be closer to $140,000 than $31,000.

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DeFi Development Corp. (Nasdaq: DFDV) is pioneering a new category in crypto investing with the first Solana-focused Digital Asset Treasury. DFDV offers public market exposure to Solana’s growth, yield, and onchain innovation, offering investors a leveraged way to participate in a trillion-dollar opportunity. Learn more about why Solana and why DFDV at SolanaTo10K.com.

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Bitwise is one of the largest and fastest-growing crypto asset managers, with more than $15 billion in client assets across an expanding suite of investment solutions—including the world’s largest crypto index fund—plus products spanning Bitcoin, Ethereum, DeFi, and crypto equities. In addition to managing assets, Bitwise helps investors stay informed about the fast-moving crypto market. Every week, CIO Matt Hougan breaks down what’s happening in crypto in five minutes or less. Read the latest at https://experts.bitwiseinvestments.com/cio-memos. Certain Bitwise investment products may be subject to the extreme risks associated with investing in crypto assets. Visit https://bitwiseinvestments.com/disclosures to learn more.
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Timestamps:

• 0:00 – Intro

• 1:16 – Has Bitcoin actually bottomed?

• 12:38 – Why do we need a rate cut?

• 21:29 – How lower rates + AI fuel growth

• 26:24 – DOGE and political mismanagement

• 31:25 – The real solution: financial education

• 36:13 – The $140K poverty line debate

• 45:05 – Tech lowers costs; government raises them

Matthew Sigel is the Portfolio Manager of the VanEck Onchain Economy ETF ($NODE), one of the most forward-thinking institutional products in the crypto ecosystem. In this episode, we break down how major institutions are evaluating Bitcoin — from market structure and sentiment to what’s driving recent price action. Matthew shares the three indicators he uses to gauge Bitcoin’s direction, how he thinks about buying during volatility, and what he’s watching in crypto-linked public equities. We also dig into the broader digital-asset landscape — from smart-contract platforms to stablecoins and where he sees the strongest long-term opportunities.

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BitcoinIRA: Buy, sell, and swap 80+ cryptocurrencies in your retirement account. Take 3 minutes to open your account & get connected to a team of IRA specialists that will guide you through every step of the process. Go to https://bitcoinira.com/pomp/ to earn up to $1,000 in rewards.

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In this episode, Pomp spotlights easyBitcoin.app—the app that pays you 1% extra on recurring buys, 2% annual bitcoin rewards, and 4.5% APY on USD. Download it now for iOS or Android at https://easybitcoin.onelink.me/F1zP/klc4v1p8 and start earning today. Your capital is at risk. Crypto markets are highly volatile. This content is informational and not financial advice.

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 – Intro

• 2:06 – How institutions are thinking about bitcoin right now

• 6:10 – How to evaluate metrics in real time and key bitcoin price levels

• 10:33 – Crypto-linked equities and why $NODE outperformed

• 17:08 – What reverses the bitcoin miner downturn?

• 23:41 – Evaluating companies holding bitcoin on balance sheet

• 34:46 – Matthew’s outlook on altcoins and bitcoin dominance

• 39:43 – Inside $NODE: structure, allocation, and strategy

Jordi Visser is a macro investor with over 30 years of Wall Street experience. He also writes a Substack called “VisserLabs” and produces deep-dive investing videos on YouTube. In this episode, we unpack the latest market pullback — why prices are dropping, why investor fear has spiked, and whether this is the start of a bear market or simply a healthy correction. We also break down asset performance, where Jordi sees opportunity, and the signals that could mark a reversal — plus a quick look at Bitcoin’s volatility and what it means for long-term investors.

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As markets shift, headlines break, and interest rates swing, one thing stays true — opportunity is everywhere. At Arch Public, we help you do more than just buy and hold. Yes, our dynamic accumulation algorithms are built for long-term investors… but where we really shine? Our arbitrage algos — designed to farm volatility and turbocharge your core positions. The best part of Arch Public’s products is they are free! Yes, you heard that right, try Arch Public for free! Take advantage of wild moves in assets like $SOL, $SUI, and $DOGE, and use them to stack more Bitcoin — completely hands-free. Arch Public is already a preferred partner with Coinbase, Kraken, Gemini, and Robinhood, and our team is here to help you build smarter in any market. Visit Arch Public today, at https://www.archpublic.com, your portfolio will thank you.

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 – Intro

• 1:48 – Why is fear spiking? What’s driving the sell-off?

• 5:51 – Expectations vs. reality + seasonality trend

• 10:25 – Nvidia beats… so why did markets still sell off?

• 14:16 – Is Bitcoin’s 30–35% drawdown normal?

• 19:18 – Why this sell-off feels different

• 24:42 – Fed December rate cut, jobs data, & midterms

• 30:28 – What signals would mark a real market reversal?

• 34:06 – AI, leverage, and private credit

• 38:38 – Innovation drives the market long-term

• 45:20 – Thanksgiving break announcement

Jeff Park is the Partner and Chief Investment Officer at ProCap BTC. In this conversation, we break down why bitcoin’s price has been slipping and whether the market is actually signaling the start of a bear trend. Jeff explains the key forces driving sentiment — from liquidity pressures to global macro shifts — and why a slightly negative year for bitcoin might not be as bearish as it sounds.We also dig into what it would take for bitcoin to rip back toward the $125K–$150K range, plus how geopolitical dynamics in Japan, China, and elsewhere are shaping the broader investment landscape.

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BitcoinIRA: Buy, sell, and swap 80+ cryptocurrencies in your retirement account. Take 3 minutes to open your account & get connected to a team of IRA specialists that will guide you through every step of the process. Go to https://bitcoinira.com/pomp/ to earn up to $1,000 in rewards.

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In this episode, Pomp spotlights easyBitcoin.app—the app that pays you 1% extra on recurring buys, 2% annual bitcoin rewards, and 4.5% APY on USD. Download it now for iOS or Android at https://easybitcoin.onelink.me/F1zP/klc4v1p8 and start earning today. Your capital is at risk. Crypto markets are highly volatile. This content is informational and not financial advice.

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Core is the leading Bitcoin scaling solution, enabling you to lock in yield by locking up your Bitcoin. Simply lock it on the Bitcoin blockchain to secure the Core network, and get rewards. No bridging. No lending. Just holding. Still your keys. Still your coins. Now your yield. Start at https://stake.coredao.org/pomp

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 – Intro

• 1:50 – Why is bitcoin dropping? Should investors be worried?

• 4:36 – Do technical levels like CME gaps actually matter?

• 8:13 – Harvard’s bitcoin position and how endowments invest

• 12:15 – Has optionality changed bitcoin’s market dynamics?

• 15:14 – What Jeff is watching for real signs of optimism

• 17:30 – Is the 4-year cycle officially dead?

• 23:18 – Macro risks: liquidity, global conflict, & Trump premium

• 25:56 – What would a true upside black swan look like?

• 28:05 – How do you underwrite quantum risk today?

Anthony and John Pompliano dive into bitcoin’s latest price action — from the sharp sell-off and rising bear-market fears to what long-term investors should actually do right now. Anthony gets personal, breaking down how he invests, how he thinks about buying vs. selling, and why he separates the “gambling table” from the “long-term lounge.”

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Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Mining or to get started mining Bitcoin, visit https://www.simplemining.io/

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DeFi Development Corp. (Nasdaq: DFDV) is pioneering a new category in crypto investing with the first Solana-focused Digital Asset Treasury. DFDV offers public market exposure to Solana’s growth, yield, and onchain innovation, offering investors a leveraged way to participate in a trillion-dollar opportunity. Learn more about why Solana and why DFDV at ⁠SolanaTo10K.com⁠.

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Bitwise is one of the largest and fastest-growing crypto asset managers, with more than $15 billion in client assets across an expanding suite of investment solutions—including the world’s largest crypto index fund—plus products spanning Bitcoin, Ethereum, DeFi, and crypto equities. In addition to managing assets, Bitwise helps investors stay informed about the fast-moving crypto market. Every week, CIO Matt Hougan breaks down what’s happening in crypto in five minutes or less. Read the latest at https://experts.bitwiseinvestments.com/cio-memos. Certain Bitwise investment products may be subject to the extreme risks associated with investing in crypto assets. Visit https://bitwiseinvestments.com/disclosures to learn more.

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 – Intro

• 1:17 – Bitcoin: what is going on?

• 8:31 – Comparing past cycles & long-term lounge mindset

• 13:25 – Thinking through macro, liquidity, & gold

• 18:18 – How average investors should think about bitcoin

• 30:38 – Thinking through volatility & investing strategies

• 36:51 – Will bitcoin be above or below $90K at end of the year?

Jordi Visser is a macro investor with over 30 years of Wall Street experience. He also writes a Substack called “VisserLabs” and puts out investing YouTube videos. In this conversation, we break down the recent sell-off in asset prices — why the absence of a clear catalyst matters, how it may change the way you think about your portfolio, and where Jordy believes capital could rotate over the next 12–16 months. We also dig into Bitcoin’s lackluster performance, whether investors should be worried, and how to interpret the current market environment.

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Need liquidity without selling your crypto? Take out a Figure Crypto-Backed Loan (https://www.figuremarkets.co/pomp), allowing you to borrow against your BTC, ETH, or SOL with 12-month terms and no prepayment penalties. They have the lowest rates in the industry at 8.91%, allowing you to access instant cash or buy more Bitcoin without triggering a tax event. Unlock your crypto’s potential today at Figure! https://www.figuremarkets.co/pomp Disclosures: Figure Lending LLC dba Figure. Equal Opportunity Lender. NMLS 1717824. Terms and conditions apply.

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DeFi Development Corp. (Nasdaq: DFDV) is pioneering a new category in crypto investing with the first Solana-focused Digital Asset Treasury. DFDV offers public market exposure to Solana’s growth, yield, and onchain innovation, offering investors a leveraged way to participate in a trillion-dollar opportunity. Learn more about why Solana and why DFDV at SolanaTo10K.com.

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BitcoinIRA: Buy, sell, and swap 80+ cryptocurrencies in your retirement account. Take 3 minutes to open your account & get connected to a team of IRA specialists that will guide you through every step of the process. Go to https://bitcoinira.com/pomp/ to earn up to $1,000 in rewards.

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 – Intro

• 1:49 – Why assets are selling off with no clear catalyst

• 8:15 – Will markets stabilize into year-end?

• 10:24 – The CoreWeave bottleneck & AI infrastructure limits

• 12:37 – The next big theme: AI + pharmaceuticals

• 18:53 – Innovation waves: humanoids, pharma, bitcoin

• 25:04 – Bitcoin sentiment, distribution & long-term thesis

• 38:32 – Jordi’s winners through 2026

Teresa Goody Guillén is CZ’s personal attorney and a key legal voice behind his recent pardon. In this conversation, we cut through the online controversy and break down what actually happened. Teresa explains how the pardon process works, addresses the biggest misconceptions, and answers the tough questions — from ‘pay-to-play’ accusations to whether any corruption was involved, and what this all means for Binance moving forward.

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As markets shift, headlines break, and interest rates swing, one thing stays true — opportunity is everywhere. At Arch Public, we help you do more than just buy and hold. Yes, our dynamic accumulation algorithms are built for long-term investors… but where we really shine? Our arbitrage algos — designed to farm volatility and turbocharge your core positions. The best part of Arch Public’s products is they are free! Yes, you heard that right, try Arch Public for free! Take advantage of wild moves in assets like $SOL, $SUI, and $DOGE, and use them to stack more Bitcoin — completely hands-free. Arch Public is already a preferred partner with Coinbase, Kraken, Gemini, and Robinhood, and our team is here to help you build smarter in any market. Visit Arch Public today, at https://www.archpublic.com, your portfolio will thank you.

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Bitwise is one of the largest and fastest-growing crypto asset managers, with more than $15 billion in client assets across an expanding suite of investment solutions—including the world’s largest crypto index fund—plus products spanning Bitcoin, Ethereum, DeFi, and crypto equities. In addition to managing assets, Bitwise helps investors stay informed about the fast-moving crypto market. Every week, CIO Matt Hougan breaks down what’s happening in crypto in five minutes or less. Read the latest at https://experts.bitwiseinvestments.com/cio-memos. Certain Bitwise investment products may be subject to the extreme risks associated with investing in crypto assets. Visit https://bitwiseinvestments.com/disclosures to learn more.

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 – Intro

• 1:51 – What was CZ charged with and why was he pardoned?

• 4:45 – How does the pardon process work?

• 8:32 – Was there pay-to-play or corruption involved?

• 12:57 – Other chains, other CEOs, and the bitcoin-wallet rumors

• 16:59 – How did CZ handle all of this personally?

• 19:28 – Elizabeth Warren’s claims — what happened?

• 24:04 – Is crypto policy now a political pendulum?

• 25:51 – What happens to Binance now?

Jeff Park is the Partner and Chief Investment Officer at ProCap BTC. In this episode, we break down why bitcoin has been moving sideways and whether investors should actually be concerned. Jeff walks through major forces shaping the market — from 50-year mortgages and government backstops to the surge in AI data-center demand. We also touch on Square’s bitcoin payments rollout, the state of stablecoins, and where sentiment goes next. 

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Check out my NEW show for daily bite-sized breakdowns of the biggest stories in finance, technology, and politics: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://pompdesk.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Mining or to get started mining Bitcoin, visit https://www.simplemining.io/

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In this episode, Pomp spotlights easyBitcoin.app—the app that pays you 1% extra on recurring buys, 2% annual bitcoin rewards, and 4.5% APY on USD. Download it now for iOS or Android at https://easybitcoin.onelink.me/F1zP/klc4v1p8 and start earning today. Your capital is at risk. Crypto markets are highly volatile. This content is informational and not financial advice.

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Core is the leading Bitcoin scaling solution, enabling you to lock in yield by locking up your Bitcoin. Simply lock it on the Bitcoin blockchain to secure the Core network, and get rewards. No bridging. No lending. Just holding. Still your keys. Still your coins. Now your yield. Start at https://stake.coredao.org/pomp

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Timestamps:

• 00:00 – Intro
• 01:55 – Is $100K the new base for bitcoin?
• 04:41 – Is the 4-year cycle broken?
• 06:19 – Should the U.S. adopt 50-year mortgages?
• 10:20 – Global housing models (China, Asia, etc.)
• 16:52 – The “poor door” debate & why luxury lowers rents
• 20:54 – Stimulus checks & tariff dividends
• 23:26 – Government backstopping AI data centers
• 35:02 – Crypto market structure bill
• 40:12 – Bitcoin vs. stablecoins for payments

Jordi Visser is a macro investor with over 30 years of Wall Street experience. He also writes a Substack called “VisserLabs” and puts out investing YouTube videos. In this conversation, we discuss Bitcoin’s “IPO moment” — why investors are feeling disappointed, what’s really happening beneath the surface, and how these dynamics could reshape portfolios in the months ahead.  Jordi also shares his perspective on Tesla, artificial intelligence, and the shifting political landscape — explaining how the New York City mayor race and overall market sentiment could influence the next phase of global investing.

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Check out my NEW show for daily bite-sized breakdowns of the biggest stories in finance, technology, and politics: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://pompdesk.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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As markets shift, headlines break, and interest rates swing, one thing stays true — opportunity is everywhere. At Arch Public, we help you do more than just buy and hold. Yes, our dynamic accumulation algorithms are built for long-term investors… but where we really shine? Our arbitrage algos — designed to farm volatility and turbocharge your core positions. The best part of Arch Public’s products is they are free! Yes, you heard that right, try Arch Public for free! Take advantage of wild moves in assets like $SOL, $SUI, and $DOGE, and use them to stack more Bitcoin — completely hands-free. Arch Public is already a preferred partner with Coinbase, Kraken, Gemini, and Robinhood, and our team is here to help you build smarter in any market. Visit Arch Public today, at https://www.archpublic.com, your portfolio will thank you.

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DeFi Development Corp. (Nasdaq: DFDV) is pioneering a new category in crypto investing with the first Solana-focused Digital Asset Treasury. DFDV offers public market exposure to Solana’s growth, yield, and onchain innovation, offering investors a leveraged way to participate in a trillion-dollar opportunity. Learn more about why Solana and why DFDV at SolanaTo10K.com.

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 – Intro
• 2:05 – Bitcoin’s “IPO moment” and illiquid markets
• 6:51 – How stablecoins and AI will impact bitcoin
• 12:34 – AI stocks and the next phase
• 18:22 – Jobs report, unemployment, and inequality
• 20:40 – NYC mayor race & rise of socialism
• 27:35 – Will Tesla buy Uber?
• 31:18 – Inflation, wages, and the restaurant reset
• 40:45 – Elon’s trillion-dollar Tesla bet
• 44:06 – “Make Your AI Bed” — adapting to the new era

Mel Mattison is one of the leading macro strategists on the internet, known for his deep insights into global markets and digital assets. In this conversation, Mel explains why he believes bitcoin is quietly building a strong base for its next move higher. We cover the key macro forces shaping markets — from Fed policy and the Supreme Court’s tariff decision to the sustainability of the AI boom and rising geopolitical tensions.

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Check out my NEW show for daily bite-sized breakdowns of the biggest stories in finance, technology, and politics: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://pompdesk.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Mining or to get started mining Bitcoin, visit https://www.simplemining.io/

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In this episode, Pomp spotlights easyBitcoin.app—the app that pays you 1% extra on recurring buys, 2% annual bitcoin rewards, and 4.5% APY on USD. Download it now for iOS or Android at https://easybitcoin.onelink.me/F1zP/klc4v1p8 and start earning today. Your capital is at risk. Crypto markets are highly volatile. This content is informational and not financial advice.

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Timestamps:

• 0:00 – Intro
• 2:11 – How Mel views uncertainty in markets today
• 4:12 – Government shutdown & Supreme Court tariffs impact
• 7:49 – What could actually cause a bear market
• 10:14 – Why Mel is bullish on bitcoin’s base at $100K
• 13:56 – What would make Mel turn bearish on bitcoin
• 17:33 – Three negative market signals in stocks
• 22:04 – Has bitcoin’s 4-year cycle changed?
• 27:16 – White House Asset Management and US industrial policy
• 30:20 – Any concern around US–Venezuela tensions?