The Progressive Bitcoiner

My guest today is Mike Brock, CEO of TBD, (a part of Block), which focuses on building open source, decentralized technologies. In this wide-ranging conversation, Mike discusses Bitcoin's relationship to politics, culture, and decentralization. He argues against simplistic views of Bitcoin as an all-encompassing solution and for nuance over maximalism. We discuss Bitcoin as a tool, the risks of centralization, using Bitcoin to advance liberal democracy and human freedom, romantics v skeptics, and more. I really enjoy Mike's perspectives, passion for optimism and philosophy, and commitment to decentralized tech. Are we as divided as we think? Mike doesn't seem to think so, and feels we are more united and bipartisan in many ways than people, especially on social media, will have us think.

https://www.tbd.website/

Mike Brock

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Trey Walsh

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00:00:00 Start  

00:02:58 Mike Brock's Background

00:08:20 Bitcoin is Political But Not Partisan

00:13:44 Bitcoin Culture Lacks Diversity  

00:24:00 Bitcoin as an Instrument  

00:32:39 Bitcoin Adoption Will Be Gradual

00:44:54 Politics Are Calming Down   

00:50:48 Leaving Twitter and Echo Chambers

01:00:10 The Risks of Centralization

01:08:12 Decentralizing Social Media

01:13:40 Promoting Open Debate in Bitcoin

01:23:29 Romantics vs. Cynics 

01:27:30 Focusing On What Really Matters

01:38:04 Social Media Less Important Than We Think

01:44:10 On Political Polarization  

01:49:43 Improving Bitcoin Culture

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My guest today is Ian Gaines. Ian is the Government Relations Assistant Director for The Consortium of Social Science Associations (COSSA) in Washington D.C. COSSA is a nonprofit advocacy organization working to promote and advance the social and behavioral sciences in federal policymaking. Ian has worked with Black Bitcoin Billionaires, Bitcoin Policy Institute, and is co-authoring a book, writing a chapter focusing on economic empowerment. Needless to say, he has played a huge part in a lot of behind the scenes policy work regarding bitcoin in the U.S. In this conversation Ian shares his personal bitcoin journey, provides historical context around financial alternatives needed for marginalized communities in the US, discusses assumptions some progressives have about bitcoin, emphasizes the importance of free speech principles, and touches on upcoming crypto policy/legislation and needed research on bitcoin's real-world societal impact.   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuwzqHXpeuU 

COSSA: https://cossa.org/ 

Black Bitcoin Billionaires: https://www.blackbitcoinbillionaire.com/ 

Bitcoin Policy Institute: https://www.btcpolicy.org/ 

 

Ian Gaines

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Trey Walsh 

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TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Start  

00:01 Intro

00:02 Ian's bitcoin journey

00:07 Historical context   

00:12 Financial alternatives

00:19 Real world impact

00:24 Sponsor break

00:25 Unbanked in the US

00:31 Assumptions about bitcoin

00:38 Free speech principles  

00:46 Having honest conversations

00:50 Slippery slope of censorship  

00:56 Values from the left

01:00:00 Cultural shift

01:07:00 Bitcoin and national security  

01:13:00 Research on bitcoin's impact

01:19:00 Do you think there's a problem?

01:25:00 Making bitcoin accessible

01:27:00 Where is policy moving?

01:31:00 Outro

 

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Today I am joined by Gerson Martinez, Chief Strategy Officer at Volcano Energy. Gerson, who’s family immigrated from El Salvador to the United States, shares how Bitcoin is transforming safety, remittances, education, and financial sovereignty in El Salvador. We discuss the history of El Salvdaor and misconceptions about El Salvador perpetuated in Western media and advocate for amplifying local Salvadorian voices. Gerson also talks Bitcoin mining, nonprofit work, Bitcoin Beach, and why time with family is one of the most cherished things in life. See the links below for great Salvadorian led initiatives to follow and support: 

Volcano Energy: https://twitter.com/Volcano_Energy 

My First Bitcoin: Free, impartial bitcoin education in El Salvador: 

twitter: https://twitter.com/MyFirstBitcoin_
Website: https://miprimerbitcoin.io/en/my-first-bitcoin/ 

The National Bitcoin Office of El Salvador: https://twitter.com/bitcoinofficesv

Bitcoin Beach: A circular bitcoin economy based in El Zonte, El Salvador: 

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Gerson Martinez
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Trey Walsh
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TIMESTAMPS:

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03:18 Gerson's background & nonprofit work

13:16 Bitcoin Beach

18:14 Change in life pace at BTC Beach

20:00 Kids response to BTC beach

21:57 Safety in El Salvador

27:20 Political history of El Salvador

33:02 What actual safety feels like

34:30 USA exported gangs to El Salvador

40:47 Is Bukele bad for El Salvador?

45:54 Media outlets shaping opinions about El Salvador

55:31 Trey's mission work & experience

59:45 Bitcoin adoption & education

01:09:47 Bitcoin mining

01:15:32 Time preference

 

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Today I am joined by Anita Posch. Anita is a renowned Bitcoin educator, author, and founder of Bitcoin for Fairness, a non-profit initiative raising awareness and understanding of Bitcoin for people in emerging countries and for disadvantaged communities. Anita also has a new online platform we discuss, “Crack the Orange,” A scholarship program for aspiring educators and builders in the Global South to foster knowledge and boost Bitcoin adoption. 

In addition to all these things she’s been busy working on, we discuss the importance of bitcoin for marginalized communities and how bitcoin enables freedom for all through permissionless and borderless access. We discuss stories of people using bitcoin to escape authoritarian regimes, gain financial freedom, and overcome obstacles from the legacy financial system and how bitcoin has the potential to unite people across borders, genders, and ideologies if the community focuses on bitcoin's humanitarian benefits over politics.  

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Trey Walsh 

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TIMESTAMPS:

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00:05:20 Bitcoin Adoption       

00:10:00 Financial Freedom  

00:15:30 Women in Bitcoin    

00:20:15 Surviving Dictatorships

00:25:00 Privacy Matters      

00:30:45 Promoting Freedom   

00:35:00 Bitcoin Inclusivity

00:40:15 Content Creation    

00:45:00 Building Community  

00:50:00 De-Politicizing Bitcoin

00:55:00 Mainstream Adoption  

01:00:00 Napster Discussion 

01:05:00 Monetizing Content

01:10:00 Bitcoin's Impact

01:15:00 Bitcoin For All

01:20:00 The Bitcoin Dream

01:25:00 Conclusion

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Today we are joined by Ayelen Osorio. Ayelen is a human rights/financial freedom advocate and shares stories, interviews, and writings on this through her newsletter “Notes from the Margin.” Ayelen brings fresh and much needed perspective and stories to the bitcoin and financial freedom space, focusing on marginalized communities and freedom. In her own words, “I believe that within marginalized communities exists an enormous untapped potential – that when unleashed through economic and financial empowerment will uplift the world in ways we can’t imagine.” I have no doubt you’ll continue to hear more from Ayelen through her own work, interviews on other podcasts, and conferences around the world.   

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Trey Walsh 

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TIMESTAMPS:

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00:10:00 Financial Freedom  

00:15:30 Women in Bitcoin    

00:20:15 Surviving Dictatorships

00:25:00 Privacy Matters      

00:30:45 Promoting Freedom   

00:35:00 Bitcoin Inclusivity

00:40:15 Content Creation    

00:45:00 Building Community  

00:50:00 De-Politicizing Bitcoin

00:55:00 Mainstream Adoption  

01:00:00 Napster Discussion 

01:05:00 Monetizing Content

01:10:00 Bitcoin's Impact

01:15:00 Bitcoin For All

01:20:00 The Bitcoin Dream

01:25:00 Conclusion

 

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Today we are joined by Justin Rhedrick, aka Bitcoin Vegan. Justin is an author, has been involved with education projects with Black Bitcoin Billionaires, and is the co-founder and Executive Director of Bitcoin Transformation Community, a nonprofit focused on education, advocacy and workforce development, with a particular focus on going into US correctional facilities to identify and educate people incarcerated to develop the skills necessary to work within the bitcoin ecosystem upon release. Justin himself, as you’ll hear from in this podcast and others, was formerly incarcerated and knows first hand the challenges these folks face in re-entry, employment, and life. Justin’s heart and passion for bringing practical bitcoin education and tools to everyday people in the United States is undeniable, and we’ll do everything we can to support this project. If you’re a bitcoin business looking to hire, especially in mining, get in touch with Justin for access to an incredible talent pipeline.  

 

Bitcoin Transformation Community: https://bitcointransformationcommunity.org/who-we-are/ 

Bitcoin Transformation Community on twitter: https://twitter.com/BTCTC1sat 

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TIMESTAMPS:

00:00 Start

02:19 Justin's background

05:34 From Bars to Bitcoin Documentary

09:35 Bitcoin Academy Marcy Projects

16:16 Income inequality

20:50 Growing up in Charlotte, NC

23:17 Friend gets killed

26:36 Finding Bitcoin

30:23 Vegan

40:20 Ishai Jackson & BBB

43:57 Scams & SBF

51:18 Mass adoption

58:12 Educating & jobs for prison population

 

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Today we are joined by Farida Nabourema, citizen of Togo and human rights and pro-democracy activist. We discuss the history of Togo, authoritarian regimes, the CFA Franc colonial currency used in Togo and other African states, the human rights movement, bitcoin, activism, women’s rights, and more. Farida has been one of my favorite guests, because through her advocacy, work, and brilliance in speaking and writing, she is showing the world the importance of resistance and pro-democracy movements, and the importance of technology like bitcoin as an alternative to the present currency that is used to fund citizens’ repression.  

 

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TIMESTAMPS:

00:00:00 Start

00:06:20 Frida's Background  

00:09:10 Colonial Pact in Togo

00:12:28 Military Regime History

00:15:30 Political Repression  

00:18:30 Resource Exploitation

00:21:22 Restrictions from Colonial Pacts   

00:24:41 Struggle for Justice

00:27:24 Bitcoin as a Lifeline

00:29:37 Education on Bitcoin

00:32:53 Evangelizing Bitcoin

00:35:47 Bitcoin Use in Togo

00:40:29 Bitcoin Energy Use

00:43:54 Unbanked Populations

00:47:05 Politicians and Bitcoin

00:51:30 Renewable Energy 

00:56:14 Bitcoin for Farmers

01:00:08 Who Needs Bitcoin?

01:03:19 Bitcoin for Activists

01:07:51 Stable Economies and Bitcoin

01:10:06 Necessity Drives Adoption

01:12:50 Diverse Bitcoin Communities

01:15:59 Bitcoin for Women 

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Today we are joined by Taimur Ahmad, who focuses on Energy, Macro/Finance and Geopolitics and is a recent graduate of Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies at Stanford University. We discuss progressive ideas in bitcoin, bitcoin as ultimate financial inclusion, community and movement building and what bitcoin does–and doesn’t–fix. Taimur is very thoughtful in his approach to these very nuanced topics and takes care to look at all angles.  

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Trey Walsh
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TIMESTAMPS:

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00:01:34 Tamur's Background
00:03:23 Bitcoin Discovery
00:05:18 Economics & Energy
00:10:12 Bitcoin Skepticism
00:15:31 Bitcoin Use Cases 
00:19:49 Adoption Concerns
00:23:37 Status Quo Systems
00:28:57 Bitcoin Solutions?
00:31:00 Political Capture 
00:34:20 Complex Conversations
00:39:43 Motivating Change
00:44:00 Local Use Cases
00:49:02 Wasted Focus?
00:53:50 Climate Activism
00:57:31 Market Solutions?
01:03:44 Reform The State
01:08:17 More Questions
01:13:01 Community Building
01:19:49 Proof of Work
01:19:51 Embracing Change
01:28:57 A Technology of Hope

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Today we are joined by former Governor of New York, David Paterson. Governor Paterson is an American politician and member of the Democratic Party who was the 55th governor of New York, succeeding Eliot Spitzer and serving out nearly three years of Spitzer’s term from March 2008 to the end of 2010 following Spitzer’s resignation. Governor Paterson has made history as the first legally blind governor in the nation, and the first African American Governor of New York. I was most interested in having Governor Paterson on the show to discuss his time as governor of New York during the Great recession. He did not disappoint…His candor, storytelling, humor, and openness to technologies like Bitcoin made this one of my favorite conversations. It was also refreshing to hear from a Democratic politician who is open to bitcoin and the ideas it represents as a tool to utilize in the face of a system that, “clearly isn’t working” in his words. 

 

Governor David Paterson 

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00:00:00 Start
00:00:06 Introduction
00:02:04 Bitcoin Basics
00:05:18 Paterson's Background 
00:10:12 The Great Recession
00:15:31 New York's Budget Crisis
00:19:27 AIG Bailout
00:23:37 Bitcoin Origins
00:25:33 Education and Progress
00:30:05 Wealth Inequality
00:34:15 Partisan Politics
00:39:10 Crime in New York
00:44:08 Federal vs State Elections
00:49:21 Kennedy Jr. Campaign
00:53:42 Dark Times in U.S.
00:57:31 Bitcoin Solutions
01:13:25 Getting the Word Out
01:19:51 Embracing Change
01:28:57 A Technology of Hope

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Today we are joined by Jason Maier, High School Math teacher and author of "A Progressive's Case for Bitcoin". We get into his book, imagining a different system and way of thinking about things, speaking to progressives about bitcoin and his journey as a life-long learner and educator, and more. I think Jason has written one of the best introductory books on Bitcoin that can engage anyone, but especially those from the political left. He does incredible work educating people about bitcoin and how it is not antithetical to progressive values, but rather folks may find bitcoin aligns very well with many of their progressive values. Be sure to get a copy of Jason's book (referral link below) if you haven't already! 

Jason Maier https://www.bitcoinprogressive.com/ 
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00:01:31 Intro
00:02:32 Jason background
00:04:21 Teaching complex ideas
00:09:00 Bitcoin is the first step
00:12:43 Bitcoin exposes systemic flaws
00:17:23 Imagining a different system
00:24:33 Bitcoin changes incentives
00:30:07 Progressives are NOT corporate Democrats
00:35:22 What is a progressive?
00:43:03 Bitcoin transcends ideology
00:51:46 Inequality
00:56:34 Fiat is not a meritocracy
01:00:11 Owning your money
01:05:03 9/11 & privacy
01:09:54 Political neutrality
01:13:54 Wrap up

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