The Prymal Podcast

Most people don’t build businesses to serve, they build them to be seen. And eventually that validation runs out.

Phil Graham has coached 12,000+ business owners and disrupted industries. In this conversation he breaks down the real difference between founders who last and founders who quit - emotional resilience, decision velocity, and building a mission that’s bigger than your need for approval.

He explains 'the Ferrari trap', why marketing and sales is a moral responsibility if you genuinely help people, and how to design a lifestyle business that gives you authority, freedom and profitability - so you can actually live life on your terms.

Key topics:

• Mission over validation (and why validation always runs out)

• Emotional resilience as the founder advantage

• Fear as fuel vs fear as a crippler

• Decision velocity and course correction

• Risk: upside, downside, recoverability

• Lifestyle business vs enterprise

• Marketing/sales as responsibility, don’t be the best kept secret

• Fatherhood, standards, and “am I worth modelling?”

  
  

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  Chapters:
  00:00:26 Emotional resilience and why founders fail
  00:01:35 Vision bigger than yourself and holding risk
  00:06:49 Emotional triggers, identity, and regulation
  00:07:40 Detaching from judgement and approval
  00:11:14 Fear, uncertainty, and meaning
  00:12:00 Mission as fuel, not motivation
  00:18:08 Validation vs mission, the Ferrari trap
  00:31:16 Solitude, self-trust, build a company with yourself
  00:36:27 Marketing and sales as moral responsibility
  00:41:47 Decision velocity, stop “thinking about it”
  00:43:07 Risk filter: upside, downside, recoverability
  00:49:52 Lifestyle business vs enterprise, choose the game
  00:58:13 Fatherhood: “am I worth modelling?”
  01:06:01 Fear as fuel vs fear as crippler
  01:20:30 Phil’s journey, what’s next
  01:24:11 Authority, freedom, profitability - living on your terms

Ryan Curtis experienced a terrible training accident that ended his professional MMA career and threatened to leave him completely paralysed.

In this powerful conversation, we explore the mindset that helped him recover against the odds, rebuild his identity, and find meaning in the middle of chaos.

Ryan explains why nothing about him is “special”, why mindset is trainable, and why sitting with your own thoughts might be the most important skill you ever develop.

We discuss:

• How resilience is built long before hardship arrives

• Why most people misunderstand failure

• The emotional engine behind discipline

• Why presence matters more than happiness

• How to stop living an unconscious life

• The role of identity, values and fatherhood

• Why gratitude is a practical tool, not a cliché

• The truth about success, external validation and social media

• How to build a life you’re proud of, one decision at a time

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Key topics: resilience, mindset, identity, fatherhood, purpose, self-reflection, discipline, values, personal growth, presence, gratitude, unconscious living, mental strength.

00:00:00 – Why inspiration fades

00:05:10 – Building a stronger mind

00:12:40 – Lessons from losing

00:19:30 – Who you choose to be

00:26:20 – The pull of social media

00:33:45 – Living on autopilot

00:40:50 – Facing hard truths

00:48:25 – Strength in community

01:00:00 – Defining your values

01:06:10 – Sitting with yourself

01:14:40 – Presence over happiness

01:23:20 – When life stops you

01:31:15 – The trap of wanting more

01:38:40 – Fatherhood and meaning

01:46:50 – Owning your imperfections

01:53:40 – What failure shows you

01:57:10 – Made In Chaos

Most of us think we need more discipline, motivation, or structure.

But in reality, we need something far simpler - to slow down.

Brian O'Loughlin explores the deeper lessons behind the Prymal 60 challenge and uncovers a more honest truth about change:

You can’t create transformation from a dysregulated, overwhelmed, overstimulated state.

You don’t think your way into clarity - you feel your way there.

This episode dives into:

• Nervous system regulation as the foundation for growth

• Why slowing down reveals the truth you’ve been avoiding

• The hidden warning signs of burnout

• How “containers” help us confront unconscious patterns

• Why presence is more transformative than productivity

• Why challenges often fail unless they create internal space

• The relationship between emotion, behaviour, and identity

• How to reconnect with yourself through simple daily practices

  
  

If you’ve been stuck in cycles of overwhelm, distraction, stress, or self-sabotage, this conversation will feel like an exhale.

Dan: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thedancampion⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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0:00:00 – You Can’t Change Until You Slow Down

0:03:18 – The Real Purpose of Prymal 60

0:08:45 – Nervous System Overload & Hidden Burnout

0:14:32 – How Disconnection Becomes the Default

0:20:28 – Containers: Why Structure Creates Safety

0:26:41 – The Sludge Above the Gold (Emotional Truth)

0:33:15 – Walking, Breathwork & Simple Regulation

0:38:52 – Presence vs Productivity

0:44:09 – Emotional Awareness vs Intellectual Understanding

0:50:34 – The Body Always Knows First

0:56:12 – Burnout as a Bodily Realisation

1:02:25 – Why Change Feels Impossible When You’re Dysregulated

1:09:08 – Permission, Vulnerability & Male Friendship

1:14:26 – What We Actually Learned from Prymal 60

1:20:57 – Integrating These Lessons Going Forward

Key topics: nervous system, burnout, slowing down, emotional awareness, personal growth, presence, self-regulation, Prymal 60, behaviour change, trauma, embodiment, mindfulness, self-awareness, reflection, transformation, accountability, unconscious patterns.

Real growth begins with awareness, but awareness alone doesn’t create change or growth.

The difference between staying stuck and moving forward lies in what you do next.

Mark O’Reilly is an ICF accredited coach with an MSc in Mental Health and Mental Skills, an MSc in Work and Organisational Psychology, and Professional Diplomas in Strategy, Development & Innovation, Leadership & Management and Sport Psychology.

We explore how great coaching helps people develop awareness, turn clarity into progress, the link between awareness, accountability, and action, the real distinction between coaching and therapy, and how to design change that lasts.

You’ll learn:

• - How coaching turns awareness into measurable progress

• - The difference between therapy and coaching (and when each applies)

• - Why accountability creates momentum

• - How to build awareness you can actually use

• - Simple tools to create change that sticks

  - How to learn the skill of taking more action

  - How to break narratives you hold and nurture more self belief

  - How solid coaching principles apply across so many areas from sport to relationships to business

And much more!

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Chapters:

0:00:00 – Building Awareness & Taking Action  

0:05:02 – What Coaching Really Is (and Isn’t)  

0:11:40 – Awareness as the Foundation of Change  

0:18:28 – Coaching vs Therapy – Knowing the Difference  

0:25:44 – Accountability – Turning Clarity into Progress  

0:33:22 – Why Awareness Without Action Keeps You Stuck  

0:40:09 – Designing Change That Actually Works  

0:47:51 – Coaching in Practice – Lessons from Real Clients  

0:55:38 – Habits, Reflection, and Momentum  

1:03:06 – Building a Framework for Ongoing Growth  

1:10:44 – Awareness as a Lifelong Skill

"You can't think your way into changing. You have to move."

Key Topics: coaching, awareness, accountability, action, personal growth, behaviour change, therapy vs coaching, mindset, clarity, self-improvement, Mark O’Reilly, Prymal Podcast, performance, progress, leadership, transformation.

Most of us get motivation wrong, we chase quick highs instead of building real systems.

High Performance Coach Adam Ward breaks down the myths around motivation and explain how to build health, discipline, and longevity that actually last.

It's not about aesthetics or hype, it’s about energy, consistency, and building a life that works.

The goal should be HEALTH.

You’ll learn:

• The most common motivation myths that keep people stuck

• Why discipline beats willpower every time

• How to create a training system that fits your real life

• What longevity really means (and how to measure it)

• The connection between energy, health, and purpose

• How to stay consistent when life gets messy

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Chapters:

0:00:00 - Intro – Motivation Myths & Longevity  

0:04:12 - Why Motivation Doesn’t Last  

0:09:40 - Discipline vs Motivation – The Real Difference  

0:16:02 - How to Build Systems That Stick  

0:22:47 - The Longevity Mindset – Training for Life  

0:29:21 - Why Energy Is the Ultimate Metric  

0:36:05 - Recovery and Rest as Performance Tools  

0:42:50 - Avoiding Comparison & The Social Media Trap  

0:49:35 - How to Stay Consistent When Life Gets Busy  

0:56:11 - Health, Family & Showing Up for What Matters  

1:03:03 - Closing Reflections – Longevity That Lasts

Key topics: Adam Ward, Prymal Podcast, motivation myths, longevity, discipline, consistency, habits, performance, wellness, healthspan, motivation vs discipline, training for life, lifestyle design, balance, recovery, energy, sustainable fitness.

What if the real key to change isn’t mindset – it’s biology?

Brian Pennie – speaker, author and neuroscientist who overcame 15 years of heroin addiction – explains why true growth starts with the body. We talk about the neuroscience of habit, addiction, resilience, and how modern life hijacks our nervous systems through information overload and constant outrage online.

You’ll learn:

• Why you can’t outthink poor sleep or nutrition

• How biology drives mindset, performance & behaviour

• Addiction as a spectrum – why we all have patterns we cling to

• How to build real self-awareness without shame

• Why social media addicts us to outrage and how to break free

• The difference between impact and attention in the wellness space

• Why meaning and responsibility are the antidote to chaos

📖 Brian’s book: Bonus Time

🎥 Watch his RTÉ documentary: Hooked – How Addiction Hijacks Your Brain

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Chapters:

0:00:00 - Intro – Why Brian Pennie’s Story Matters  

0:04:30 - The Moment Everything Changed  

0:09:15 - From Addiction to Awareness: Reframing Pain as a Teacher  

0:15:10 - The Neuroscience of Habits and Identity Change  

0:21:45 - Start with Biology: The Foundation of Performance  

0:27:30 - Why You Can’t Outthink Your Body  

0:33:10 - Addiction Is Part of Human Nature  

0:40:45 - Impact vs Business in the Wellness World  

0:51:20 - Outsourced Outrage: Social Media and the Hijacked Nervous System  

0:58:00 - Responsibility, Meaning, and Service  

1:10:00 - Closing Reflections and Daily Integration

Key Topics: Brian Pennie, Prymal Podcast, biology vs mindset, neuroscience, addiction, self-improvement, personal growth, performance, resilience, awareness, mental health, dopamine, wellbeing, sleep, nutrition, social media outrage.

Lots of us struggle with meditation. Many of us live with unhealthy mistrust or unconscious bias.

These are some insights and lessons I've taken from recent conversations, exploring moving the “mind” out of the head into a heart-centred space and treating meditation as observation (not breathwork), plus a practical take on healthy skepticism so you can navigate today’s noisy health/information ecosystem in a conscious way, without sliding into cynicism. 

We'll cover:

• A simple visualization that stops overthinking (open-sky / clouds)

• Why focusing on the nostrils (observe, don’t control) changes the practice

• Why music/sensory input can keep you in your head - and what to do instead

• Healthy skepticism vs cynicism: how to think, not what to think

• Using curiosity to avoid tribal call-outs and choose what’s useful

• How to work with professionals (and their incentives) without outsourcing your life 

Key topics: meditation tips, meditation vs breathwork, how to meditate, healthy skepticism, critical thinking, information overload, social media tribalism, who to trust, health advice filter, mindfulness practice. 

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Topics:

0:00:00 - Intro: why solo episodes & the “good stuff sticks” idea

0:00:06 - Meditation finally clicked: the two big shifts

0:09:41 - Observe the breath (nostrils), not breathwork + no music

0:19:26 - Healthy skepticism: curiosity without cynicism

0:27:17 - How to think vs what to think (Tyson quote)

0:34:12 - Social media call-outs, incentives & avoiding tribalism

0:41:55 - Practical responsibility + collaborating with pros

0:47:15 - Closing & how to get involved

Eoin Lacey is a Performance Consultant and Coach who specialises in lifestyle management, health and wellness.

We’re drowning in health content - who do you trust, and how do you decide what’s right for you? Eoin helps us build a practical toolkit for filtering advice, avoiding bias, and making better health decisions you can actually sustain.

We cover clickbait vs specificity, evidence vs anecdote, incentives behind online advice, and how to work with your doctor and healthcare professionals using modern tools and simple baselines. We explore a framework to test, review, and adap so you stop outsourcing your health and start steering it. 

You’ll learn:

• How to spot advice that’s actually relevant to you

• When to involve medical professionals (and why it matters)

• What “It depends” really means in health and fitness

• How to vet online coaches and spot red/green flags

• The pitfalls of a pill-first approach to care

• How to use modern technology and resources alongside your GP

• A simple “health sat-nav” framework for continuous improvement

Key topics: health misinformation, filter health advice, Eoin Lacey, , evidence vs anecdote, bias, wearables, CGM, functional medicine, online coaches, patient advocacy, behaviour change, survivorship bias.

Dan: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thedancampion⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Eoin: @eoinlaceyeducation

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Chapters:

0:00:00 - Intro & the problem: info overload in health

0:00:08 - Specificity beats clickbait: is this advice for you?  [n=1, relevance] 

0:03:41 - Risks of generic plans; steroids/anabolics & N=1 thinking

0:05:14 - When to involve medical pros; risk & contraindications

0:06:42 - Diet tribes, trends & why “one system” rarely fits

0:09:43 - The Lane Norton lesson: science > feelings & “It depends”

0:12:14 - Fundamentals don’t change: coaching, EQ & service quality

0:13:47 - Vulnerability of patients; influencer incentives; bring data

0:17:44 - Wearables & meeting your doctor halfway; stop outsourcing

0:20:00 - Magic bullets vs sustainable action (with empathy)

0:22:57 - Spotting good online coaching: intake, listening, tailoring

0:25:00 - Incentives, trust & ‘are they actually listening to you?’

0:27:06 - The trust problem post-COVID; healthy skepticism

0:30:00 - Use multiple sources; open discussion > ideology

0:33:47 - Pill-first limits; functional medicine context

0:35:00 - System constraints; lifestyle gaps; collaborate with clinicians

0:45:00 - Ideal care pathway vs reality; use tech; reduce overwhelm

0:47:48 - Evidence nuance: sample size, population, publication

0:49:52 - IF 16:8 origin story; “health sat-nav”: test/review every 2 wks

0:55:00 - Building your personal toolkit: baselines, goals, consults

1:00:00 - Avoid single-hammer clinics; see the bigger picture

1:04:36 - Why online communication misleads; mass plans ≠ you

1:10:00 - Algorithm bubbles; when to experiment vs see experts

1:12:06 - Resource list idea; align info to your intent/goals

1:14:32 - Take what’s useful; survivorship bias; don’t do everything

1:15:17 - Wrap-up, where to reach Eoin

Prymal 60 is back. It's time to level up and raise your standards.

What you need to know: 

- It’s free (of course) 

- It’s not nearly as extreme as ‘75 Hard’ 

- It’s starting on Monday 15th (but you can do it whenever)

- You can modify it to suit you 

The Standards each day: 

- 10 mins of ‘space’

- 10 minutes of writing 

- 30 mins of movement or exercise 

- 35ml of water per kg bodyweight 

- 1.8 - 2g protein per kg bodyweight 

- 8 hours with no social media consumption 

We expand on the details in this podcast, but essentially you will pick between 4 and 6 of the standards (or include your own) and aim to meet these every day for 60 days. 

If you miss a standard on a day, you go back to day 1.

Simple!

For full instructions and guidelines please drop me an email at [email protected].

Good luck!

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Shift workers form the backbone of our societies, but it comes with a set of challenges we cannot ignore.

Tom Coleman is a sleep expert and health scientist who works with shift workers and companies to develop health promoting strategies specifically designed to offset some of the negative effects of shift work.

In this episode we cover:

• Shift work and chronic disease
• The impact on mental health
• Loneliness and social isolation
• Diet, weight gain and nutrition
• Driver fatigue and how to combat it
• Sleep strategies for different shift types
• Company responsibility and liability
• Why our biology is wired for daylight (and why shift work clashes with it)

• The dangers of chronic sleep debt and circadian disruption

• Practical tools to manage recovery and protect your health

• The impact of alcohol, stimulants, and lifestyle factors on shift workers

• Behaviour change strategies that actually work long term

• What the latest research reveals about performance, recovery, and shift patterns

And much more .

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Tom: @tomcoleman.ie

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Chapters:

0:00:03 - Intro: Shift Work, Sleep & Health (with Tom Coleman)

0:06:04 - How Shift Work Impacts Your Health & Performance

0:12:07 - Circadian Rhythm: Why Night Shifts Break Your Body Clock

0:18:09 - Chronotypes: Can “Night Owls” Adapt to Night Shifts?

0:24:09 - Long-Term Adaptation Myths (and Age-Related Risks)

0:30:11 - Sleep Debt You Can’t Feel & 12-Hour Shift Fatigue

0:36:14 - Recovery Protocols: Sleep Doses, Routine, Nutrition, Training

0:42:15 - Sleep Variability, Anxiety & Consistency That Actually Works

0:48:16 - What You Control vs Genetics: Behaviour Change That Sticks

0:54:16 - Sleep Inertia: First 30 Minutes & Energy Management

1:00:16 - Workplace Fatigue: Policies, Rotas & Safety

1:06:17 - Habit Building After Sleep Fixes: Sustainable Change

1:12:18 - Alcohol, Stimulants & Medication on Shifts (Pros/Cons)

1:18:18 - Tools: Light Exposure, Supplements, Training Adjustments

1:24:19 - Shift Work & Family Life: Boundaries, Routines, Recovery