Natasha, Global Executive Search Director of Kennedy Fox, shedded light on her experiences and insights into the recruitment industry. Natasha the "near" nurse - ex "near" graduate, highlights the importance of industry experience & the right personality type in recruitment - including Natasha moving from inside the industry she operated for to recruiting for them. She shares the global reach of her company in the manufacturing sector, specialising in industrial engineering and scientific fields which she is very familiar with...

Lysha and Natasha dive into the challenges of working in recruitment: career plateaus, market fluctuations, the emotional resilience needed to thrive. Expressing the challenges of facing a "brick wall" in her career & how the support of a mentor helped her push through - discussing how high the importance of an emotional management and persistence in a demanding industry is.

In this episode , there are so many discussions from Lysha and Natasha. In depth, they touch so many important factors:

• Benefits of Retained in Recruitment.
• Importance of cultural fit, clear communication,& effective team bonding when working remotely.

• Career Resilience in Recruitment Challenges.

• Advantages of hiring individuals with industry backgrounds.

• Differences between contract and permanent recruitment.

• Benefits of building strong client relationships, managing their expectations for better outcomes.

• The need for PATIENCE in training new hires, especially those without recruitment experience.

• Dynamics of remote work.

Natasha's first entrance onto the Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast, and she was amazing! Hopefully we will see her return soon...

Connect with Natasha Here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/natashaklymczuk/

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi, Keybridge IT and Diversity and Inclusion .

Our Sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https://paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast...

Our Partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https://needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed anidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much moredidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Kate O'Neill, Director of her own Recruitment Coaching business and newest addition - Job Slinger Academy. Delivering 12 years of her experience to help Recruitment companies hire the best trainees who are prepped & trained before they even step in.. plus also offering recruitment professionals and businesses tailored coaching and training.

A full on discussion in this episode with Kate bringing so much to the table - Lysha really digs into the depth of Kate's Knowledge with a very unique touch. Also, brought onto the topic of the shift in the recruitment industry, particularly the rapid hiring boom during the Covid-19 pandemic, followed by a significant downturn.

But, so many more key factors were talked about in this unique episode, including:

• How beneficial it is for Kate training the trainees before they land in their job.
• Talk of the twinkle in the eye of unicorn recruiters
• Indulging into if an economy of scale works well
• Industry shifts and training needs

• Tackles the debate of Hiring experienced or Fresh talent

• Challenges and misconceptions in Billing Managers

Lysha and Kate discuss the obstacles encountered by new recruitment consultants, and including the right mindset and resilience needed to succeed. Emphasizing the importance of identifying candidates with the perfect attitude for recruitment, those that gauge initiative and commitment with qualities such as fearlessness and determination,

There is so much value for anyone - wherever they are in their Recruitment carreer - in this episode. Tips and tricks to hire the best and identify the best of the best...

Connect with Kate here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kateoneill-recruitment/

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi and Inclusion Crowd.

Our Sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https://paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast...

Our Partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https://needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed anidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much moredidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Chris O'Connell made a return appearance, Leadership Coach of BASE Mindset, dives deep into his personal and professional journey. Explaining the loss of his £25 million business, family tribulations & homelessness which brings him onto how he has created a business where he shares his business lessons learnt and supports leaders as they scale and grow their own companies.

In this episode, both Lysha and Chris explore themes like authenticity, vulnerability, and the importance of strong relationships in Recruitment business.

Also, interesting topics of:

• Recruitment industry's changing landscape to balance between traditional methods, modern tools & the significance of personal growth in achieving long term success.
• Over a quarter of a century of Recruitment experience - Chris shares the highs and lows of his career therefore stressing the importance of being authentic, even when it means being vulnerable.
• How to build strong customer relationships which requires consistent effort & a personal touch.
• Balancing tradition and modern approaches as a Leader of a Recruitment business.

• Discussing many people leaving the industry due to a lack of understanding of sales processes.

• Strategic planning and industry expertise are crucial for success in recruitment.

• Reflection on personal growth and the role of social media in business, maintaining a balanced life that includes time for health, self-care, and meaningful relationships.

This episode provides valuable insights on leadership, relationship-building, strategic planning, and personal development in both Recruitment and life.

Chris is also releasing his own book which is on pre-sale from March 2025 for more information, connect with Chris here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/itschrisoconnell/

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi and Inclusion Crowd.

Our Sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https://paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast...

Our Partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https://needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed anidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much moredidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Dries De Coster, Managing Director of Chat Automation LTD, Delivered a meaningful insight exploring the exciting potential of AI and automation in the recruitment industry. Shares his story of moving from Belgium to England in 2005 to expanding his career from working in HR to automation from summer 2023.

He discussed how his company’s digital 24/7 working bot, Dwight (Digital worker interface for generic human tasks) , enables recruiters to focus on more impactful, candidate-facing activities, leading to higher productivity and better retention rates.

In this episode, Dries and Lysha dive into the topics of:

• How technology can streamline recruitment processes and enhance the human side of recruitment by automating time-consuming, repetitive tasks.
• Highlighted how AI and automation can drive operational efficiency while still preserving the critical human element of recruitment.
• The Industry must attract forward-thinking individuals who are willing to adapt to these innovations, as those resistant to change may find themselves left behind.

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• Shares his plans to expand Dwight’s capabilities...

• How AI can enhance data analysis
• Both agreeing on the need to blend human expertise with AI tools like ChatGPT to improve data retrieval and analysis.

The conversation wraps up with a look to the future, Dries reflecting on upcoming developments in AI and automation... Listening to this episode offers an insightful glimpse into AI and automation for the future of recruitment.

Connect with Dries De Coster here - https://www.linkedin.com/search/results/all/?heroEntityKey=urn%3Ali%3Afsd_profile%3AACoAAANpoJ4B18sGLzua4DQpSrAWsesKU65gq4s&keywords=Dries%20De%20Coster&origin=ENTITY_SEARCH_HOME_HISTORY&sid=C0D

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi and Inclusion Crowd.

Our Sponsor:

Paiger -  Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https://paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=sponsor&utm_campaign=recruiters-recruiter

Our Partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https://needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed anidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider -  Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much moredidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider -  Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more.

Perran Cooke, an ex-professional footballer to a dynamic leader & CEO founder of Sowena Group - with over a decade of senior/exec finance recruitment. He delivers an elite finance and accountancy search service to high-growth and private equity/VC backed businesses in the North West of England.

After his injury in professional football, he moved into sports insurance down in Cornwall. Perran explains his past of winning and achieving a DSA award in his second year ,but also having a deep passion for managing people. Recruitment was a mystery to him but after moving to Manchester - his client introduced him to the Industry...

Key topics from this episode, which Perran and Lysha delve into:

• He learnt how pivotal integrity is when launching his own business, Sowena Group
• Sharing his beliefs in a "candidate-led approach," therefore essential for maintaining integrity in business.
• Discusses the challenges of how hard moving from biller to billing manager is.
• Finding out what Sowena (a Cornish word) means.

• Navigates the complexities of business and leadership with a strong moral compass.

Connect with Perran here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/perran-cooke-98a21939/

You should find this episode joyful at any stage of your recruitment career because Perran is so open and transparent.

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi and Inclusion Crowd.

Our Sponsor:

Paiger -  Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https://paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=sponsor&utm_campaign=recruiters-recruiter

Our Partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https://needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed anidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider -  Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much moredidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider -  Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more.

Toby has gone from working in technology at Accenture and the BBC for 8 years, to founding his own consultancy - Mildon, which focuses on diversity and inclusion. His introduction to D&I was implementing a gender balance action plan in the BBC technology department.

Also, creating his own book - My Inclusive Growth Book. Which enables anyone to deliver a sustainable, diverse & inclusive workplace to allow their organisation to grow.

In this episode, Toby & Lysha discuss:

• How unconscious bias can lead to prejudice and discrimination in recruitment.
• The challenges of managing diverse teams.
• The challenges of Hybrid working , particularly in the post-pandemic world.
• How Toby addressed gender imbalance in tech at the BBC.
• Describing the differences from the BBC to Deloitte before launching his own company.

Connect with Toby here - https://www.linkedin.com/search/results/all/?heroEntityKey=urn%3Ali%3Afsd_profile%3AACoAAAXZSboB5gjuLy11ufHJ5Y8gjMfyQ3d_cAs&keywords=Toby%20Mildon&origin=ENTITY_SEARCH_HOME_HISTORY&sid=U)K

This episode is filled with valuable tips to all recruiters wherever they are in their career journey.

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi and Inclusion Crowd.

Our Sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https://paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=sponsor&utm_campaign=recruiters-recruiter

Our Partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https://needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed and delivered by experienced recruiters, giving your teams the insight, tools, and confidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more.

Laura has been a powerhouse in recruitment since her first day, 21 years ago, in July 2003, when Laura and Lysha first met.

Starting her career at PFJ on the Rec2Rec desk as a trainee, she quickly established herself as one of the most successful recruiters in the business. She spent a decade living down in London working at a couple of agencies and towards the latter years she set up her own rec2rec agency - Lowthbry, which she ran for a few years before deciding to make a move back up North. After meeting with Lysha to hatch a plan on moving back to Manchester, they then decided to work together and that's when Qui Recruitment London was formed - back in 2015!

Laura's expertise in rec2rec is working with senior professionals, largely across the tech space within London - and has built an incredible reputation in one of the most competitive markets!

 In this episode, Laura shares her insights on:

• What it takes to become a top biller.

• The qualities of a great leader.

• The role of AI in recruitment.

• The key behaviours that define top-performing recruiters.

Connect with Laura here -

This episode is packed with valuable takeaways for recruiters, leaders, and anyone interested in the evolving dynamics of the recruitment industry.

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The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and partners to Needi and Inclusion Crowd.

Our Sponsor:

Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations.

Find out more details on Paiger here - https://paiger.co/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=sponsor&utm_campaign=recruiters-recruiter

Our Partners:

Needi is a concierge gift-matching service using psychology and AI, to pinpoint the perfect gifts and experiences for your recipient, from the best, local independent businesses. Their team of expert gift finders, save companies time and money, with their complimentary corporate gifting service . Find out more here -https://needi.co.uk/

Diversity in Recruitment helps recruitment businesses understand diversity, equity, and inclusion in a way that makes sense. Our training and advisory work is designed and delivered by experienced recruiters, giving your teams the insight, tools, and confidence to attract diverse talent, recruit inclusively, improve your candidate journey and confidently partner with their clients. DE&I doesn’t have to be complicated and scary - it’s simply about fair, ethical and high-quality recruitment.

Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more.

EP255: Darren Westall, Co-Founder of Paiger - How To Utilise Tech Effectively

Our final guest of the evening for The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast LIVE event was the Co-founder of Paiger, one of our proud podcast sponsors. With over 17 years of experience in the recruitment industry, though never a recruiter himself, he has carved a unique path within Rec-tech and shared invaluable insights during The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast LIVE event in Birmingham on November 14, 2024.

His Journey in Rec-tech

How to Have Better Conversations as Recruiters

The Importance of Community

How to Utilise Tech Effectively

• He provided practical advice on leveraging technology in recruitment, highlighting what processes should be automated to save time and improve efficiency—and what should not be automated to preserve the human touch.

This exceptional evening was brought to life through the generous sponsorship of Qui Recruitment, Paiger, Recruitment Founders Club, and x+why, and was supported by our partners Needi, Diversity in Recruitment, and Keybridge IT.

We’re thrilled to share that we raised £1,322 for the Birmingham Women’s and Children’s Foundation Trust through ticket sales and contributions during the event.

Greg Elton, Founder of Day2 and Co-founder of Recruitment Founders Club, delivered an inspiring talk as our fourth guest at The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast LIVE event on November 14, 2024, in Birmingham.

As someone with over 17 years of experience in recruitment, Greg brought a wealth of knowledge and perspective to the evening, aligned with the theme of "How to Achieve and Maintain Personal and Professional High Performance."

His Recruitment Journey

• Greg shared insights from his 17-year career, reflecting on pivotal moments that shaped his approach and the lessons he learned along the way.

Why Retained Recruitment is Best

• A strong advocate for the retained recruitment model, Greg made a compelling case for why this approach delivers better results for recruiters and clients alike.

We are immensely grateful for the support of our sponsors—Qui Recruitment, Paiger, Recruitment Founders Club, and x+why—and our partners Needi, Diversity in Recruitment, and Keybridge IT, who made this event possible.

Thanks to ticket sales and on-the-night contributions, we were thrilled to raise £1,322 for the Birmingham Women’s and Children’s Foundation Trust.

Scarlett Allen-Horton, Founder of Harper Fox and a passionate advocate for Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion (EDI), was our fifth speaker at The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast live event in Birmingham on November 14, 2024. Learn more about Scarlett on LinkedIn.

The event's theme, "How to Achieve and Maintain Personal and Professional High Performance," set the stage for an engaging and insightful discussion.

During Scarlett's interview, she shared valuable insights on:

• Fostering true diversity in recruitment: What leaders can do to build genuinely inclusive hiring practices.
• Her inspiring personal journey: From challenges to triumphs that shaped her career.
• Elevating women in the workplace: Strategies for supporting and empowering women in leadership.
• Top-biller success secrets: The drive and determination that propelled her to excel in recruitment.
• Presentation tips for success: Practical advice for impactful public speaking.

The mantra of the evening, inspired by Scarlett, was: "If you can't, you must."

Her talk left the audience motivated and ready to embrace high-performance strategies in their personal and professional lives.

The event was proudly sponsored by Qui Recruitment, Paiger, Recruitment Founders Club & x+why

Our partners - Needi, Diversity in Recruitment, and Keybridge IT

And we're so pleased to announce that we raised £1322 for Birmingham Women’s and Children’s Foundation Trust through our ticket sales and on the evening!

What was your key takeaway from Scarlett's talk?