Can you still call it Christianity if you don’t believe Jesus physically rose from the dead? This episode of the Exile Series tackles one of the most crucial and controversial questions facing the church today: what still counts as “Christian” when key beliefs are dismantled?

Mike and Tim unpack an explosive New York Times interview with Union Seminary President Serene Jones, who claims one can believe in resurrection without believing that Jesus physically rose. This kicks off a deep dive into gatekeeping, core doctrine, theological mystery, and where—if anywhere—we draw lines. They explore Paul’s declaration of “first importance” in 1 Corinthians 15, the implications of a metaphorical resurrection, and the struggle to balance love, inclusion, and truth without erasing the essence of Jesus’s identity and mission.

Whether you’re rebuilding your faith, deconstructing from harmful religious narratives, or curious about where theological boundaries should lie, this conversation offers honesty, nuance, and plenty of wrestling room.

Key Takeaways: • What If Jesus Didn’t Physically Rise? – The implications of denying the bodily resurrection while holding onto Christian identity. • Gatekeeping & Grace – When it’s necessary to define boundaries, what we’re protecting, and how we do it without creating elitism or exclusion. • A Centered-Set Faith – Why Mike and Tim believe in moving toward Jesus as the identifiable center rather than drawing rigid lines around secondary beliefs. • The Resurrection as the Defining Claim – How Paul’s first-century view in 1 Corinthians 15 re-centers the core of the gospel—and why it’s still relevant. • Belief, Language, and Labels – Why self-identifying as “Christian” may not mean what we think it does if we remove its historical and theological basis.

Resources Mentioned: • 1 Corinthians 15 – Paul’s statement on the gospel of first importance • Interview with Serene Jones – New York Times opinion by Nicholas Kristof • Set Theory & Centered-Set Church Model – Learn more about centered vs. bounded faith [episode link] • Voxology Facebook Group – Join the conversation and share your thoughts on gatekeeping and resurrection

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