The SaaS Podcast: How B2B SaaS & AI Founders Get Customers

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  • Niche SaaS: One Pain Point to $5.5M ARR in 12 Years

    Erling Linde had no sales experience and a product so ugly a prospect called it terrible. Twelve years later, his niche SaaS generates $5.5M ARR and employs 42 people across five countries. In this episode, you'll learn how focusing on one vertical SaaS pain point and expanding geographically - instead of adding features - built a durable business.

    Erling reveals how he cut demo times from two hours to 10 minutes by learning to read buying signals, why hiring customer success people before salespeople in new markets built trust faster, and how an industry-specific SaaS approach created a compounding referral loop when consultants changed jobs and brought the product with them.

    CV Partner (now Flowcase) bootstrapped for 10 years to $4M ARR before raising a minority VC round that doubled the team from 20 to 42 people in one year - proof that niche SaaS patience pays off.

    ๐Ÿ”‘ Key Lessons

    • ๐ŸŽฏ Niche SaaS wins by going deep, not broad: CV Partner hit $5.5M ARR by solving one pain point for consulting firms - resume formatting for bids - and expanding geographically rather than building for adjacent markets.
    • ๐Ÿค Cut demos short when you see buying signals: Erling's meetings went from two hours to 10 minutes once he stopped presenting when prospects showed excitement and scheduled follow-ups instead.
    • ๐Ÿ› ๏ธ A UX co-founder can transform a niche SaaS product: A prospect's blunt criticism of the developer-built UI led Erling to recruit a UX expert whose redesign became CV Partner's top competitive advantage.
    • ๐Ÿš€ Hire customer success before sales in new markets: CV Partner entered new countries by placing a local support person first so prospects trusted they would receive niche market SaaS-level attention.
    • ๐Ÿ’ฐ Bootstrap until ready, then raise to compress time: Erling bootstrapped for 10 years to $4M ARR, then raised a minority round that doubled the team in about a year.
    • Chapters

      • What CV Partner does as a niche SaaS for consulting firms
      • Revenue, team size, and 47% growth in 2023
      • Discovering the pain point at a dinner with friends
      • Hiring a UX co-founder after blunt design criticism
      • Two-hour demos and learning to read buying signals
      • Conferences as a growth channel for vertical SaaS
      • Building the SEO and inbound engine
      • Growing from $1M to $4M ARR across Scandinavia
      • Why Erling raised VC after 10 years bootstrapping
      • Lightning round and book recommendations
      • Resources

        • Full show notes: https://saasclub.io/417
        • Join 5,000+ SaaS founders: https://saasclub.io/email
        • 52 min
        • Viral SaaS Growth: $1M ARR in 4 Months With No Funding

          Martha Bitar hit $1M ARR in just 4 months - with zero funding and no sales team. Her viral SaaS growth engine at Flodesk combined a "Made in Flodesk" footer on every email sent with an affiliate program that paid $19 per referral, creating a compounding loop that drove explosive adoption. In this episode, you'll learn how to build SaaS without funding and turn unconventional pricing into a competitive moat.

          Martha reveals the intense validation process - 12+ customer calls daily, iterating Figma prototypes until someone cried happy tears. She shares why flat-rate pricing at $35/month unlimited eliminated the "dark cloud" of growing email costs, and how Flodesk survived getting shut down by AWS almost daily during the early days of bootstrapped SaaS growth.

          Flodesk now serves 80,000 paying customers with 51 employees and $27M ARR - proof that viral SaaS growth powered by design simplicity can compete with billion-dollar incumbents like MailChimp.

          ๐Ÿ”‘ Key Lessons

          • ๐ŸŽฏ Aim for "no" to get honest feedback: Martha asked "Why wouldn't you use Flodesk?" giving customers permission to be honest. When they still said yes, she knew the demand was real.
          • ๐Ÿš€ Build viral SaaS growth loops into your product: The "Made in Flodesk" footer turned every customer email into a distribution channel - one customer's first email exposed 16,000 people to the product.
          • ๐Ÿ’ฐ Link virality to monetization for compounding growth: Connecting the footer to affiliate payouts created a dopamine loop where customers earned money without extra effort, fueling organic sharing.
          • ๐Ÿ› ๏ธ Use flat-rate pricing as a competitive moat: $35/month unlimited eliminated pricing anxiety and sharply differentiated Flodesk from every per-subscriber competitor in the market.
          • ๐Ÿ“‰ Strip features until simplicity becomes your brand: After the first prototype confused users, Flodesk removed nearly everything and created step-by-step flows that became the product's identity.
          • Chapters

            • What Flodesk does and $27M ARR metrics
            • Why design is the real problem in email marketing
            • Intense prototype validation process
            • First prototype failure and stripping features down
            • Mary cries: the signal to start building
            • Getting shut down by AWS almost daily
            • The viral SaaS growth footer strategy explained
            • Affiliate program and compounding viral loops
            • Flat-rate pricing as an accidental competitive moat
            • Black Friday crash and customer loyalty
            • Resources

              • Full show notes: https://saasclub.io/416
              • Join 5,000+ SaaS founders: https://saasclub.io/email
              • 1 hr
              • SaaS Content Strategy That Built $70M in ARR

                Colin Nederkoorn spent 18 months reaching $10K MRR - then compounding did the rest. His SaaS content strategy turned an email list of potential customers into a demand engine that powered Customer.io from $50 MRR to $70M ARR over 12 years. In this episode, you'll learn the content-led growth playbook behind one of the most patient SaaS success stories ever told.

                Colin reveals how a meeting with Ramit Sethi transformed his launch approach, why teaching conversion copywriting to subscribers created organic SaaS growth before the product was ready, and how a Wizard of Oz MVP where his co-founder manually wrote backend queries validated demand without building full automation.

                Customer.io now serves 7,000+ companies with 250 employees across 30 countries - proof that compounding growth and a disciplined SaaS content strategy can outperform paid acquisition at every stage.

                ๐Ÿ”‘ Key Lessons

                • ๐ŸŽฏ SaaS content strategy beats paid ads when markets lack vocabulary: Colin spent thousands on ads targeting "segmentation" and "triggered messages" but attracted wrong buyers. Teaching conversion copywriting to his email list built trust and demand organically.
                • ๐Ÿ’ฐ Compounding revenue rewards patience: Customer.io sustained 50-80% year-over-year growth. Starting slow from $50 MRR, compounding turned painful early numbers into $70M ARR.
                • ๐Ÿ› ๏ธ Launch with a Wizard of Oz MVP: Co-founder John manually wrote MapReduce queries for every campaign while customers used a simple UI - proving value before building automation.
                • ๐Ÿš€ Content-led growth creates demand for the product: By educating subscribers on how to write messages that convert, Colin created natural demand for the tool that sends those messages.
                • ๐Ÿ“‰ Ask if you need time or money before fundraising: Wistia CEO Chris Savage helped Colin realize he needed runway, not capital. Raising too much too early shortens the window to find product-market fit.
                • Chapters

                  • What Customer.io does and $70M ARR metrics
                  • The power of compounding percentage growth
                  • Original analytics idea nobody wanted
                  • Pivot to behavioral messaging
                  • Setting the $50 MRR goal before quitting jobs
                  • Wizard of Oz MVP with manual backend queries
                  • The Ramit Sethi meeting that shaped the SaaS content strategy
                  • Learning conversion copywriting to educate the email list
                  • Why paid ads failed in the early days
                  • Lightning round and closing thoughts
                  • Resources

                    • Full show notes: https://saasclub.io/415
                    • Join 5,000+ SaaS founders: https://saasclub.io/email
                    • 51 min
                    • B2B Product-Market Fit: 5 Years Then Takeoff

                      Dan Uyemura spent five years grinding toward PushPress's first million in ARR. He nearly quit to go back to running his gym. But the B2B product-market fit he built - software made by a gym owner, for gym owners - turned into an 8-figure vertical SaaS serving 3,500 clients.

                      Dan reveals how domain expertise gave him 70% accuracy on gut-based product decisions, why five-minute customer support created unstoppable word of mouth in a niche SaaS market, and how B2B product-market fit through a help-first approach outperformed paid acquisition. You'll learn why product-market alignment from insider knowledge is the ultimate competitive moat.

                      PushPress is a vertical SaaS platform for boutique gym owners including CrossFit, yoga, and martial arts studios. The company raised $11 million at a $62 million post-money valuation after eight years of pitching investors. Dan's team grew from a side project to about 100 employees by leading with genuine customer understanding.

                      Key Lessons

                      • ๐ŸŽฏ Build where you live for B2B product-market fit: Dan's experience as a gym owner gave PushPress a decisive edge. His team made product decisions with 70% gut accuracy.
                      • ๐Ÿค Help first, sell second to grow vertical SaaS organically: PushPress grew through word of mouth by answering questions in gym owner Facebook groups without leading with sales pitches.
                      • โšก Speed of support drives B2B product-market fit: PushPress answered every support request within five minutes when competitors took three days, creating shock and delight.
                      • ๐Ÿ”„ Turn competitors into niche SaaS acquisition opportunities: By helping a competitor openly, Dan built trust that enabled PushPress to acquire their workout tracking product.
                      • ๐Ÿ’ฐ Pitch investors persistently across years: Dan pitched the same investor five times over eight years before closing an $11M round at a $62M valuation.
                      • Chapters

                        • Introduction
                        • What PushPress does and current business scale
                        • Discovering CrossFit and realizing gym software was outdated
                        • Building the product and B2B product-market fit journey
                        • The five-year grind to first million in ARR
                        • Word of mouth through five-minute customer support
                        • Why being a gym owner created the competitive wedge
                        • Partnerships and acquiring a vertical SaaS competitor
                        • Raising seed funding after years of rejection
                        • Lightning round
                        • Resources

                          • Full show notes: https://saasclub.io/414
                          • Join 5,000+ SaaS founders: https://saasclub.io/email
                          • 43 min
                          • SaaS Pricing: Sell Training, Give Software Free

                            Todd Dickerson and Russell Brunson launched ClickFunnels expecting 10,000 customers. They got 1,000. Then Russell sold a $997 training course and bundled the SaaS for free - and 45% of the room bought. That SaaS pricing moment changed how they built a $140M ARR business forever.

                            Todd reveals how ClickFunnels bootstrapped from $15K in starting capital to 100,000 customers using a pricing strategy that broke even on ad spend within seven days. You'll learn why live webinars beat automated ones for scaling SaaS, how layered backend offers let you outspend competitors, and the SaaS pricing model that made customer acquisition effectively free.

                            ClickFunnels ran live webinars every week for years. The model: spend $5-$10 per lead on Facebook, sell a $997 course with the SaaS bundled free, and pick up three free trial signups per sale. They survived an eight-hour database outage with zero customer churn by going live on Facebook with raw transparency.

                            Key Lessons

                            • ๐Ÿš€ SaaS pricing innovation: sell education, not software: ClickFunnels bundled the product free inside a $997 course, converting 45% of event attendees and covering all ad costs within seven days.
                            • ๐ŸŽฏ Run 50+ live webinars before automating your SaaS pricing funnel: Russell did weekly live sessions for years, using real-time chat to discover objections and refine the pricing strategy.
                            • ๐Ÿ’ฐ Layer backend offers to outspend competitors on scaling SaaS ads: ClickFunnels stacked books, courses, coaching, and events behind the SaaS, generating $40 per free book.
                            • ๐Ÿ“‰ Turn a crisis into trust with raw transparency: When ClickFunnels went down for eight hours, Russell went live unscripted and the community rallied with support.
                            • ๐Ÿ› ๏ธ Ship the MVP and roll out features weekly: ClickFunnels launched with only lead capture working, then added Stripe and integrations weekly as a "reverse launch" SaaS pricing model.
                            • Chapters

                              • Introduction
                              • What ClickFunnels does and who it serves
                              • How Todd and Russell met through a random email
                              • Expecting 10,000 customers but getting 1,000
                              • The $997 masterclass SaaS pricing breakthrough
                              • Weekly webinar model and self-liquidating offers
                              • Layering backend offers for scaling SaaS growth
                              • Why live webinars beat automated for years
                              • The eight-hour database outage crisis
                              • Lightning round
                              • Resources

                                • Full show notes: https://saasclub.io/413
                                • Join 5,000+ SaaS founders: https://saasclub.io/email
                                • 1 hr 3 min
                                • SaaS Retention: Why Firing 40% of Customers Worked

                                  Most founders fight SaaS churn by trying to save every customer. Caleb Avery fixed SaaS retention by firing 40% of them. After years in payments consulting, Caleb built Tilled and discovered that only 15-20 of his first 50 customers were succeeding. The rest were dragging the business down.

                                  Caleb reveals how deliberate customer retention pruning triggered 500% year-over-year growth, why LinkedIn content drove 95% of lead flow with under 500 followers, and how a single podcast appearance brought 36 channel partners in 24 hours. You'll learn the counterintuitive SaaS retention strategy of reducing churn by letting the wrong customers go.

                                  Tilled is a PayFac-as-a-Service platform that compressed customer onboarding from 6 months to 9 days. The company generates strong 7-figure revenue approaching 8 figures, serves around 100 customers, and has raised $40 million. Caleb grew his LinkedIn from 500 to 17,000 followers with personal founder content.

                                  Key Lessons

                                  • ๐Ÿ“‰ Deliberate SaaS retention pruning accelerates growth: Caleb fired 40% of customers who consumed resources without scaling. After 60-90 days of uncertainty, focused customer retention triggered 500% growth.
                                  • ๐ŸŽฏ Use data to define ICP and improve SaaS retention: Caleb analyzed unit economics across 50 customers, found only 15-20 succeeding, and rejected every prospect outside the winning profile.
                                  • ๐Ÿ’ก Build your personal brand to drive inbound leads: With a ghostwriter at $800/month, Caleb grew from 500 to 17,000 LinkedIn followers, driving 95% of lead flow for reducing churn.
                                  • ๐Ÿค Channel partnerships multiply your sales force: One podcast brought 36 reseller partners in 24 hours. These partners had 5% close rates - Tilled offered 60%.
                                  • ๐Ÿ› ๏ธ Developer experience is table stakes against Stripe: Rebuilding for white-label support and dev docs cut integration time from 6 months to 9 days.
                                  • Chapters

                                    • Introduction
                                    • What Tilled does and PayFac-as-a-Service explained
                                    • From payments consulting to founding Tilled
                                    • LinkedIn as the primary growth channel
                                    • Personal content as the engagement inflection point
                                    • Channel partnerships and the reseller model
                                    • Firing customers to fix SaaS retention
                                    • The 90-day transition and 500% growth
                                    • Lightning round
                                    • Resources

                                      • Full show notes: https://saasclub.io/412
                                      • Join 5,000+ SaaS founders: https://saasclub.io/email
                                      • 49 min
                                      • Serial SaaS Founder: $1M ARR 3 Times, Faster Each

                                        Adam Robinson bootstrapped three SaaS startups to $1M+ ARR, and he did it faster every time. Robly took 17 months. Retention.com took 27 weeks. RB2B took just 16 weeks. This serial SaaS founder never raised a dollar of outside funding for any of them.

                                        Adam breaks down the exact playbook at each stage - from running a call center out of his apartment, to provocative Facebook ads, to building a 92,000-follower LinkedIn audience that became his most powerful SaaS growth engine. You'll learn why this serial SaaS founder believes outbound sales is dying and why a founder-led brand replaces it.

                                        Retention.com generates over $21 million in ARR while RB2B crossed $2 million ARR. Adam's path to bootstrap to profitability included running a call center targeting 250,000 scraped Constant Contact customers, creating inflammatory Facebook video ads, and pivoting from e-commerce content to vulnerable B2B posts on LinkedIn.

                                        Key Lessons

                                        • ๐Ÿš€ A serial SaaS founder accelerates by finding uncontested channels: Adam hit $1M ARR faster each time - 17 months, 27 weeks, 16 weeks - by identifying channels where no competitor was present.
                                        • ๐Ÿ’ฐ High churn can erase fast SaaS growth: Retention.com plateaued for nine months because 15% monthly churn from low-quality Facebook ad customers ate into every dollar earned.
                                        • ๐ŸŽฏ Audience-first distribution beats cold outreach: RB2B hit $1M ARR in 16 weeks because this serial SaaS founder built 92,000 LinkedIn followers first, generating thousands of waitlist signups.
                                        • ๐Ÿ“‰ Vulnerability outperforms polished content: Adam posted daily for 12 months with minimal engagement until he wrote honestly about downsizing his team - that post got 3,300 likes.
                                        • ๐Ÿง  Edutainment replaces traditional founder-led brand strategy: Adam sees himself in the "edutainment business with a SaaS at the end of the funnel" using LinkedIn Thought Leadership ads.
                                        • Chapters

                                          • Introduction
                                          • Three companies, zero to $1M ARR each
                                          • Company 1: Robly - call center to $1M ARR in 17 months
                                          • Why uncontested channels matter for a serial SaaS founder
                                          • Company 2: Retention.com - $1M ARR in 27 weeks
                                          • The $3M ARR plateau and struggling with churn
                                          • Building a 92,000-follower LinkedIn audience
                                          • Company 3: RB2B - $1M ARR in 16 weeks
                                          • Edutainment as the new SaaS growth model
                                          • Lightning round
                                          • Resources

                                            • Full show notes: https://saasclub.io/411
                                            • Join 5,000+ SaaS founders: https://saasclub.io/email
                                            • 58 min
                                            • SaaS Onboarding: 7 Flows That Drive Growth

                                              Most SaaS founders obsess over getting more signups but ignore the user flows that turn signups into paying customers. Peter Loving has redesigned SaaS onboarding and growth flows for dozens of companies - and one dashboard redesign alone added $300K in ARR by lifting trial-to-paid from 18% to 26%.

                                              Peter breaks down 7 critical flows: signup, SaaS onboarding, activation, upgrade, core workflow, integration, and cancellation. You'll learn why personalized user onboarding by profile beats one-size-fits-all approaches, how to design an onboarding flow that feels like a five-star hotel check-in, and why improving your activation rate matters more than driving more traffic.

                                              Peter is the founder of UserActive, a UX/UI design agency that works as a subscription design team for SaaS companies. About 60% of their clients are US-based. His work with Prospect CRM demonstrated how personalized dashboards for three user profiles dramatically improve trial conversion rates.

                                              Key Lessons

                                              • ๐Ÿ› ๏ธ Personalize SaaS onboarding by user profile: Prospect CRM's personalized dashboards for three profiles lifted trial-to-paid conversion from 18% to 26%, adding $300K ARR.
                                              • ๐ŸŽฏ Remove signup friction with loginless demos: Products like List Kit let users experience value before creating an account, improving SaaS onboarding qualification.
                                              • ๐Ÿ“‰ Design cancellation flows as learning systems: Offer discounts, live support, and account pauses before final cancellation. Ask which competitor they're switching to.
                                              • ๐Ÿš€ Surface buried features to improve activation rate: Powerful features hidden in settings menus never get used. Pull them into the main navigation during user onboarding.
                                              • ๐Ÿ’ฐ Reinforce buying decisions instead of upselling: Hitting users with upgrade prompts right after they pay creates buyer's remorse. Activate them on new plan features first.
                                              • Chapters

                                                • Introduction
                                                • What UserActive does for SaaS companies
                                                • Flow 1: Signup flow and reducing friction
                                                • Flow 2: SaaS onboarding and common mistakes
                                                • Flow 3: Activation and surfacing hidden features
                                                • Flow 4: Upgrade flow and buying decisions
                                                • Flow 5: Core product workflow and UX
                                                • Flow 6: Integration flow and limitations
                                                • Flow 7: Cancellation flow and reducing churn
                                                • Prospect CRM dashboard redesign and $300K ARR
                                                • Resources

                                                  • Full show notes: https://saasclub.io/410
                                                  • Join 5,000+ SaaS founders: https://saasclub.io/email
                                                  • 1 hr 10 min
                                                  • Enterprise Sales: From Poverty to 700K Workers

                                                    Jason Radisson grew up in poverty, raised by a 16-year-old single mother on a dirt road in rural Massachusetts. He became a Fulbright Scholar, went to Harvard, joined McKinsey, then built Movo into an enterprise sales machine with nearly 100 customers and 700,000 workers on the platform.

                                                    Jason reveals how founder-led sales and warm intros at the C-level compressed enterprise sales cycles to 2-3 weeks, why selling to enterprise works best when you lead with case studies instead of features, and how closing enterprise deals in industries that resist new technology requires targeting only two customer types: extreme pain or visionary leaders.

                                                    Before Movo, Jason gained insights into managing massive mobile workforces at Uber. He launched Movo in 2015 and ran bootstrapped pilots at Las Vegas conventions. COVID-19 accelerated demand for workforce automation. Today Movo generates multiple seven figures in ARR with less than $10 million in total funding raised.

                                                    Key Lessons

                                                    • ๐Ÿค Enterprise sales beats outbound in resistant industries: Jason grew Movo using only warm intros and C-level conversations because trust shortened selling to enterprise cycles dramatically.
                                                    • ๐ŸŽฏ Target only extreme pain or visionary buyers for enterprise sales: Movo avoided late adopters and focused on companies in acute operational pain or forward-thinking leaders.
                                                    • ๐Ÿข Sell case studies, not features, in closing enterprise deals: Jason showed executives what Movo achieved for similar companies and asked if their situation differed - keeping conversations strategic.
                                                    • โšก Use light-touch customization as a competitive weapon: Movo added algorithmic rules in days that competitors like Workday would take years to build.
                                                    • ๐Ÿš€ Turn a crisis into a founder-led sales accelerator: COVID created urgent demand. Movo's Amazon deal opened doors to logistics and food manufacturing through referrals.
                                                    • Chapters

                                                      • Introduction
                                                      • What Movo does and who it serves
                                                      • Growing up in poverty and career path
                                                      • Where the idea for Movo came from
                                                      • Enterprise sales to industries that resist technology
                                                      • Running early pilots at Las Vegas conventions
                                                      • Landing Amazon and COVID as growth accelerator
                                                      • The founder-led sales playbook for enterprise deals
                                                      • Balancing customization without one-off solutions
                                                      • Lightning round
                                                      • Resources

                                                        • Full show notes: https://saasclub.io/409
                                                        • Join 5,000+ SaaS founders: https://saasclub.io/email
                                                        • 1 hr 2 min
                                                        • Selling SaaS Without Sales Experience to 20K Users

                                                          Patrick Barnes expected 4,000 ideal customers to jump on his new Amazon integration. Instead, it got 46 clicks. That kind of humbling moment keeps happening - even when you've figured out selling SaaS without sales experience well enough to reach 20,000 customers and eight figures in ARR.

                                                          Patrick reveals how he bootstrapped and sold Advocately to G2, then acquired a Shopify app with 2,000 customers to build AMP. You'll learn his SaaS sales strategy for personalized outbound, why a free Slack tool drove startup sales as a conversation starter, and how selling SaaS without sales experience taught him that speed beats perfection every time.

                                                          AMP serves around 20,000 e-commerce merchants, has raised $18.5 million in Series A funding, and generates eight figures in ARR. Patrick previously grew TradeGecko from $70K to $1.1M ARR in 12 months with his co-founder Cameron before separate exits led them to reunite for AMP.

                                                          Key Lessons

                                                          • ๐Ÿค Target existing spenders when selling SaaS without sales experience: Patrick targeted companies already paying $70K/year on G2 and Capterra, making his $500/month product trivial to justify.
                                                          • โšก Speed is the primary strategy for founder selling: Patrick limits company priorities to 1-3 items across 50 employees. Moving fast surfaces mistakes faster and tightens feedback loops.
                                                          • ๐Ÿ› ๏ธ Acquire customers to accelerate selling SaaS without sales experience: Patrick acquired a 2,000-customer Shopify app, applied SaaS sales strategy best practices, and hit $1M ARR within months.
                                                          • ๐ŸŽฏ Mandate customer calls for everyone: AMP requires every team member including engineers to run customer development calls. Customer obsession is built into the culture.
                                                          • ๐Ÿ“‰ Expect every launch to underwhelm: AMP's Amazon integration got 46 clicks from 4,000 ideal customers on launch day. The feature hit $500K ARR - it just took six months.
                                                          • Chapters

                                                            • Introduction
                                                            • What AMP does for e-commerce merchants
                                                            • Origin story: TradeGecko to Advocately
                                                            • Selling SaaS without sales experience at Advocately
                                                            • Free Slack tool as a lead generation wedge
                                                            • How the G2 acquisition happened
                                                            • Acquiring a Shopify app instead of building from scratch
                                                            • Hitting $1M ARR with startup sales best practices
                                                            • The Amazon integration launch that got 46 clicks
                                                            • Lightning round
                                                            • Resources

                                                              • Full show notes: https://saasclub.io/408
                                                              • Join 5,000+ SaaS founders: https://saasclub.io/email
                                                              • 58 min

                                                              About The SaaS Podcast: How B2B SaaS & AI Founders Get Customers

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                                                              Building software got easier. Getting customers didn't. Every week, a founder building B2B SaaS or an AI product tells you how they got their first customers, and how they kept them: what worked, what didn't, and what they'd do differently.

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