In this episode, we dive deep into some of the most thought-provoking ideas from two of the most original minds in investing: Ben Hunt and Grant Williams. Through a curated selection of powerful clips, we explore how markets have transformed from mechanisms of capital allocation to platforms of narrative and speculation. Ben and Grant challenge conventional wisdom, question the stories we tell ourselves about investing, and propose frameworks for navigating a radically different market landscape going forward. Whether it's the evolution of CEO incentives, the lifecycle of narratives, or why staying rich is harder than getting rich, this episode is packed with timeless insights.

Topics Covered:

Why what worked for 40 years may not work anymore

The market as a political utility and what that really means

The disconnection between stock prices and real businesses

How narratives shape market behavior and prices

The language of growth vs. value in investingThe CEO’s evolving role as a storytellerUsing the narrative lifecycle as an investment framework

Speculation vs. investing and how to tell the difference

How Ben Hunt applies the minimax regret framework to life decisions