The Trade Talks

Join renowned host Roger Wakefield in an enlightening podcast episode that delves deep into the world of skilled trades, featuring a candid conversation with Benny Montoya, a seasoned journeyman HVAC mechanic with Local 100. Explore the pivotal role of skilled labor in building America and how educational paths in HVAC can transform lives. Benny shares his journey from high school to becoming a second-generation HVAC expert, revealing the importance of hands-on experience, continual learning, and the critical support of companies like Johnson Controls. Discover how Benny navigated opportunities from high school welding classes to a promising HVAC career, emphasizing the value of a solid educational foundation. Learn about the dynamic nature of HVAC work, balancing technical skills, and customer relationships, while addressing challenges and triumphs in the field. This episode is a must-listen for anyone considering a career in the trades or looking to enhance their skills. Tune in to gain insights into making informed career choices, maximizing opportunities, and the potential for personal and professional growth in the skilled trades industry. Listen now and be inspired to forge your own path to success. _________________________________________________________________________________

We sat down with Mike Hallman, president of Rockwall Underground and founder of Pond Masters. Mike shares his journey from growing up in a construction family to becoming a successful heavy equipment operator and business owner. He discusses the challenges of dealing with engineers and inspectors, the excitement of operating big machinery, and the rewarding experience of building custom ponds. Learn about Mike's career path, from working on subdivisions and municipal projects to innovating with new technologies like drone surveys. Discover valuable insights into the construction industry, the importance of punctuality and respect, and Mike's advice for young people entering the trade. Tune in for an engaging conversation on the future of construction, the evolution of equipment, and the enduring spirit of hard work and dedication in the skilled trades.

We sat down with Will Blake to explore the unexpected journey from a young tradesman to a successful business owner in the foundation repair industry. Will shares his insights on the impact of the internet, the importance of charging what you're worth, and the value of starting young in the trades. From his early days helping his father with custom homes to building a multimillion-dollar company, Will's story is one of resilience and growth. Learn about the challenges he faced, the lessons learned, and his dedication to mentoring the next generation of tradespeople.

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Tyler Brown is a young HVAC technician who earned his own service truck within just three weeks on the job. Tyler shares how he transitioned from working two jobs, including Discount Tire, to focusing solely on HVAC service calls, which proved to be more lucrative. Growing up with skills in welding and inspired by his mechanic brother, Tyler chose a different path. He learned essential HVAC skills in high school and has now been thriving in the trade for seven years. Tyler discusses the benefits of working in HVAC over other trades, the importance of investing in employee training, and his future plans to start his own HVAC, electrical, and plumbing business. Tune in to hear why Tyler believes HVAC is the most stable skilled trade for the future and how he navigates the challenges of the job.

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I sat  down with Chris Lamm, the owner of NTX Electric in Wylie, Texas. Chris shares his journey from starting in commercial construction to becoming a job site superintendent, and ultimately owning his own company. Chris emphasizes that it doesn’t take much more effort to excel in the skilled trades. He’s a firm believer in the principle of “8 hours work for 8 hours pay,” but he also highlights that a little extra effort can significantly boost your growth as a tradesman.

Hard Work Pays Off Chris talks about the importance of staying updated with new tools and technologies in the skilled trades. He believes that those who continuously learn and adapt are the ones who advance and get the raises on job sites. Despite facing a challenging $80,000 lawsuit over outstanding payments from a major $200,000 job, Chris remains optimistic. He has spent over $12,000 in legal fees but is determined to overcome this hurdle and continue growing his business. Opportunities in the Trades With one million unfilled trades jobs in the USA and $1.7 trillion in student loan debt, Chris highlights the immense opportunities in the skilled trades. You can earn nearly $60,000 right after high school by pursuing a career in this field. NTX Electric offers a range of services, including new construction, residential, commercial, and remodels. They also specialize in landscape and tree lighting, serving the Collin County area in Dallas-Fort Worth. If you're interested in applying to NTX Electric, visit: [NTX Electric Careers](https://ntxelectric.com). Sponsored by Leak-Pro This episode is proudly sponsored by **Leak-Pro**. Leak-Pro offers cutting-edge solutions for leak detection and repair. Visit [Leak-Pro](https://leak-pro.com) for more information. --- Tune in to gain insights from Chris Lamm and learn how you can elevate your career in the skilled trades with dedication and the right mindset! _________________________________________________________________________________

Tradesmen built America. This is the "Blue Collar Channel"... Where you can listen to the top tradespeople around the world. Everything you need to learn about getting into the trades, becoming the best tradesman, starting your own business, and using networking and social media... To GROW in the trades!!!!

Rusty Lorman claims young tradesmen can earn over $100,000 by the age of 23 in today’s world. Rusty, now a seasoned plumbing and HVAC instructor at Naaman Forest High School, shares his journey of hands-on learning and the importance of respecting mentors. Roger and Rusty delve into the intricacies of the trade, discussing real-world experiences like resolving water heater issues and navigating non-paying customers. They highlight the value of failure as a teaching tool and the mindset needed to excel in the trades. Rusty’s unique theory on the 'just enough to get by' mindset and his goal to make young tradesmen profitable within six months of employment offers a fresh perspective on trade education.

With over 22 years in the industry and a decade of teaching, Rusty’s insights are invaluable for anyone considering a career in the trades. The episode also explores the earning potential in the trades, with Rusty revealing that apprentices can out-earn teachers early in their careers. They discuss the role of soft skills, the increasing presence of women in the trades, and the misconception that a college degree is necessary for success. **Sponsor: Leak-Pro** LeakPro® has been providing reliable slab leak and swimming pool leak detection equipment for 40 years. Our products can help you find underground water leaks quickly and easily! Visit [Leak-Pro](https://leak-pro.com) for more details. **Join us on this episode of The Trade Talks for an in-depth look at the path to success in the skilled trades.**

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Scott Allison, a master electrician and plumbing apprentice, to explore the intricacies of the skilled trades. Scott's journey began in California as a handyman, doing tile, painting, drywall, and lighting. Over the years, he has gained extensive experience working in commercial and industrial trades. Now, he leads plumbing operations at Milestone, a residential/home service company in the Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex. Scott shares his unique perspective on the differences between open shop and union work, essential books for tradesmen, and what it takes to be an effective journeyman and leader.

They discuss whether 8,000 hours are necessary for journeyman licensing, the importance of hands-on learning, and the evolving role of online education in the trades. Discover Milestone's hiring practices, where they test the general knowledge of tools and bits of green plumbers. Scott explains why prior knowledge of tools is beneficial, although sometimes they prefer completely green apprentices who can earn $15-$20 an hour.

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Dive into the world of septic system maintenance with Dominic Rosales, owner of Juice’s Septic Systems and founder of the popular social media channel, Poor Pumper Society. Discover the booming industry of septic tank maintenance, where lucrative opportunities await. Learn about the intricacies of septic systems, the challenges faced by professionals, and the advancements in wastewater treatment technology. Dominic shares his journey, insights on septic system laws, and debunks common myths. Whether you’re in rural areas dealing with septic tanks or interested in the trade, this episode offers valuable knowledge and inspiration.

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Tradesmen built America. This is the "Blue Collar Channel"... Where you can listen to the top tradespeople around the world. Everything you need to learn about getting into the trades, becoming the best tradesman, starting your own business, and using networking and social media... To GROW in the trades!!!!

Elevator mechanics are among the highest-paid in the building trades. Zack Cutburth, the business rep for Local 21 in Dallas-Fort Worth, shares his journey and insights into this lucrative field. Discover how elevator mechanics can make $200,000 per year on the check, plus comprehensive benefits that include pensions, insurance, healthcare, and ongoing education. Zack explains that the key to their high earnings lies in their rigorous education and the quality of work they perform. Because of the significant gap between retirees and new entrants, with only 4 out of every 10 retirees being replaced, the demand for skilled elevator mechanics remains high. Learn about the NEIEP program, the entry exam requirements, and the incredible benefits of joining the Elevator Mechanics Union. Zack emphasizes the value of punctuality, work ethic, and continuous learning, offering a detailed look at why this trade is a hidden gem. Tune in to find out how you can start your career as an elevator mechanic and enjoy the best benefits in the skilled trades, including a great pension, top-notch healthcare, and strong union support. If you’re looking for a high-paying, rewarding career, this episode is a must-watch! Explore the competitive field of elevator mechanics and learn how to achieve success with tips from a seasoned professional. Don't miss Zack’s insights on why this trade offers the best skilled trades union benefits and how you can reach your financial and career goals in this top-paying industry. For apprenticeship information, and more on how to join the NEIEP program, visit https://neiep.org

Tradesmen built America. This is the "Blue Collar Channel"... Where you can listen to the top tradespeople around the world. Everything you need to learn about getting into the trades, becoming the best tradesman, starting your own business, and using networking and social media... To GROW in the trades!!!!

I sat down with Frank Denton, Chairman of the Texas State Board of Plumbing Examiners, to explore the dynamic world of plumbing in Texas. Frank has licensed more plumbers in Texas than almost anyone else, attributing this success to the state's robust economy and abundance of opportunities, especially when compared to neighboring states like Oklahoma. We delve into the challenges and potential of establishing reciprocity agreements for journeyman plumbers from other states, highlighting Louisiana and Arkansas as key examples. Frank explains the critical need for skilled tradesmen in times of natural disasters, such as hurricanes, and how these agreements could aid states like Florida in emergency situations. Frank's journey also includes his tenure as Chairman of the Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation during a tumultuous period when the Sunset Commission considered abolishing the licensing and plumbing board for Texas plumbers. He shares his insights on Governor Greg Abbott's decision to sustain the TSBPE and the passion and pride that drew him to the role of chairman.

We discuss the core values of the tradesmen, evidenced by a 7,000-person rally at the state capitol in Austin, where no trash was left behind. Frank addresses the lengthy process of becoming a Master Plumber in Texas and the need for more specific requirements for apprentices. Frank's optimism shines through as he talks about the impact of institutions like Collin College on the future of plumbing in Texas. Despite the impressive statistic that 98.7% of plumbers in Texas have no complaints against them, he emphasizes the importance of maintaining high standards to protect the reputation of the profession. Join us for an insightful conversation with Frank Denton as we uncover the intricacies and values of the plumbing industry in Texas and beyond.

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Tradesmen built America. This is the "Blue Collar Channel"... Where you can listen to the top tradespeople around the world. Everything you need to learn about getting into the trades, becoming the best tradesman, starting your own business, and using networking and social media to GROW in the trades!!!!