Today, Caroline and Liz continue to discuss the fallout from Axel Rudakaban’s guilty pleas.

They also chat to criminologist Professor David Wilson about the case, who explains his theories about Rudakubana and why he might have been driven to kill and why that police mug shot may have been part of his plan to become notorious. 

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Today, Caroline and Liz start to discuss the fallout from the horrific attack on children in Southport. How Axel Rudakubama was able to murder and attack children when school, the police, social services, mental health workers and even the Government’s Prevent Programme knew about his obsession with violence. Among others asking questions today is the Prime Minister Keir Starmer who said what Axel Rudakubama did that day was terrorism. We’ll bring you his words.

Caroline and Liz also chat to barrister and former MP, Lord Alex Carlile about the case, the public inquiry which will now take place, and whether the laws on terrorism need to change.

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Axel Rudakubana has admitted carrying out the attacks on a Southport dance school which claimed the lives of three little girls. Six-year-old Bebe King, seven-year-old Elsie Dot Stancombe, and nine-year-old Alice da Silva Aguiar were killed when he went on the rampage with a kitchen knife, as they and other children made friendship bracelets. 

Today as the families of the girls braced themselves for a trial, he changed his pleas to guilty. Caroline and Liz will outline what we now know about what happened on that day, but also in the days, weeks, months and years before. How police believe he planned to attack pupils at his previous school, and how he was referred to the Government’s Prevent programme years before.

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Last summer, like thousands of children during the school holidays, three little girls in Southport in the North of England joined their friends to attend a dance school.

But six-year-old Bebe King, seven-year-old Elsie Dot Stancombe, and nine-year-old Alice da Silva Aguiar never came home.

They were brutally attacked when a knifeman went on the rampage. Many others were stabbed and injured that day but Bebe, Elsie and Alice lost their lives.

The man accused of their murders is 18 year old Axel Rudakubana. He goes on trial next week. Caroline and Liz will be covering the case.

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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you an exclusive interview with a former military intelligence officer who appeared as an expert witness in the trial of Daniel Khalife. Dr Frank Ledwidge has years of experience working in human intelligence and has detailed knowledge of the Iranian intelligence apparatus that Daniel Khalife has now been convicted of assisting while he was a serving soldier.

Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Jack Hardy

Editor: Chelsey Moore

Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham

Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini

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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the verdicts in the trial of Daniel Khalife after he was found guilty of spying for Iran and gathering the personal details of soldiers, but not guilty of perpetrating a bomb hoax. The episode features an exclusive interview with Commander Dominic Murphy of the Metropolitan Police about Daniel Khalife's audacious escape from prison and the investigation into his espionage.

Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Jack Hardy

Editor: Chelsey Moore

Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham

Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini

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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the closing speeches of the prosecution and defence, as the jury in the trial of Daniel Khalife retired to consider their verdicts.

Prosecutor Mark Heywood KC claimed Daniel Khalife endangered national security with his one-man spying mission, but Gul Nawaz Hussain KC, for the defence, told jurors that the only person he hurt was himself.

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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the end of Daniel Khalife’s cross-examination by the prosecution in which he strenuously denied that he wanted help from agents of Iran after he escaped from prison. The episode also features the evidence of a defence expert who said the supposedly sensitive documents Daniel Khalife had been passing to the Iranians would have been effectively useless to them.

Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Jack Hardy

Editor: Chelsey Moore

Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham

Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini

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In this episode Caroline and Jack have the moment Daniel Khalife changed his plea to Guilty and admitted escaping from Wandsworth Prison strapped under a food delivery van. 

He was cross examined in the witness box by the prosecutor Mark Heywood about the spying charges he still denies. He said he was a patriot and did not deserve to be sent to Belmarsh Prison.

He admitted he had made mistakes, and he had told lies but he wasn't a terrorist. 

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A quick Trial Update from Caroline and Jack after Daniel Khalife's three days in the witness box. 

These short bonus episodes won't replace our usual longer episodes which will drop into your feeds as usual, they're just bite-sized updates from court. 

In this one Daniel Khalife says during his time as a "double agent" he was acting like a mad man at times - thinking he could be James Bond. He also denies that the Iranians had anything to do with his prison break. 

Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Jack Hardy

Editor: Chelsey Moore

Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham

Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini

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