The Trial

The Trial

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  • Lucy Letby: Baby H, Part 2 "Whilst at Chester, her monitor regularly set off alarms. This didn’t happen at Arrowe Park.”

    This week, Liz and Caroline finish explaining the evidence the jury heard in relation to Baby H, a premature baby girl who Lucy Letby is accused of trying to murder twice on consecutive night shifts. Baby H was a poorly baby who was on and off a ventilator while at the Countess of Chester Hospital. But within two days at Arrowe Park Hospital, she dramatically improved. Prosecutors say Lucy Letby was sabotaging her care while she was at the Countess. Lucy Letby denies these allegations.


    Also in this episode: Professor David Wilson, a well known criminologist who is sometimes called the real life Cracker, tells us how punching an opponent in the nose during a rugby game in university led to his interest in crime and punishment. He also opens up about the saddest miscarriage of justice he encountered - the case of Stefan Kiszko who was wrongfully imprisoned for 16 years before being exonerated.


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    24 min
  • Lucy Letby: Baby H, Part 1 - "They were not able to explain why she had suffered a cardiac collapse."

    In this episode, Caroline and Liz examine what happened to Baby H, a baby girl, who Lucy Letby allegedly tried to kill twice in 24 hours. In the early hours of September 26, 2015, Baby H collapsed and didn’t have a heartbeat for twenty-two minutes while staff battled to save her life. Jurors were told the doctors were so worried that they urged her parents to have her baptised in case she didn’t make it. 


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    23 min
  • Lucy Letby: "Let’s not ignore the importance of open justice”

    This week, Liz and Caroline had hoped to bring you details of evidence heard by the jury during their first week back. But, unexpectedly the case was delayed and unable to go ahead because of health and family issues relating to two members of the jury.


    We’re hoping they will be back to normal next week. In the meantime, we have two excellent interviews this week: Part 2 of the interview with media law expert Mark Hanna, and another with the legendary boss of news agency Cavendish Press, Jon Harris, AKA Mr Justice Harris.


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    24 min
  • Lucy Letby: Interview with media law expert Mark Hanna.

    The Trial of Lucy Letby is back after the Christmas break with an interview with Mark Hanna, one of the editors of McNae’s Essential Law for Journalists - the book considered to be the ‘bible’ of media law for reporters. Liz and Caroline chat to Mark about the legal tightrope they are treading to bring listeners the podcast – one of the first to cover an ongoing legal case – each week.


    Next week, Liz and Caroline will be back with details on what the jury are expected to hear over the coming days about the next baby in the case, Baby H, as the trial resumes for the new year.


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    18 min
  • Lucy Letby: Baby G, Part 2: “She wasn’t moving.”

    In this episode, Caroline and Liz explain how Lucy Letby allegedly tried to kill Baby G, the most premature baby in the case, on two more occasions.


    We hear how she is said to have attacked the tiny infant on a day shift, within the space of five hours, on her original due date, leaving her with irreversible brain damage.


    We also hear part two of the chat with former chief crown prosecutor, Nazir Afzal, where he describes the importance of trials being open to the public and how trust in the justice system would benefit from live streaming trials.


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    22 min
  • Lucy Letby: Baby G, Part 1 “Just a little tiny thing”

    In this episode, Caroline and Liz examine what happened to Baby G, the most premature baby in this case, who Lucy Letby allegedly tried to kill three times in a fortnight.


    We also chat to former chief crown prosecutor, Nazir Afzal, about the difficulties faced by lawyers preparing and running such a long and complicated trial, and why advances in technology have revolutionised courtrooms.


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    28 min
  • Lucy Letby: Baby F, Part 2 ‘His heart rate was high and his sugar was low, something wasn't right.’

    In this episode Caroline and Liz explain what the prosecution experts say happened to Baby F, a premature twin boy who Lucy Letby allegedly tried to poison with insulin.


    We hear how two bags of feed were allegedly contaminated by Lucy Letby and how all of the nurses on duty during the night shift were called to court - and each denied putting insulin into baby F’s feed.


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    22 min
  • Lucy Letby: Baby F, Part ‘He was given insulin that was never prescribed.’

    In this episode Caroline and Liz examine what happened to Baby F, a premature twin boy who Lucy Letby allegedly tried to kill with insulin. We hear how his blood sugar suddenly crashed soon after the nurse allegedly poisoned his intravenous feed and how, after she finished her shift, she went salsa dancing with a colleague. We also chat to freelance broadcaster, Matt O’Donoghue, about the skill of condensing a day’s worth of evidence into just a few minutes for television or radio.


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    26 min
  • Lucy Letby: Baby E 'I trusted her completely…'

    In this episode Caroline and Liz examine what happened to Baby E, a premature twin boy who Lucy Letby allegedly attacked with a plastic medical tube or wire before she murdered him. We hear from his mother, who the prosecution say, interrupted the nurse while she was attacking her son, and about more text messages Lucy Letby exchanged with colleagues after his death. We also chat to former Old Bailey court reporter and media law expert Tim Crook, professor of journalism at London's Goldsmiths University, about why court reporting is still important in the modern era.


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    31 min
  • Lucy Letby: Bonus Episode - Interview with a Courtroom Artist

    In this bonus episode of the Trial of Lucy Letby, Liz and Caroline speak to Julia Quenzler, a courtroom artist at the Lucy Letby trial. Over her 30 year career she has sketched defendants, barristers and court scenes of some of the most high profile cases in modern history. It is a fascinating listen that you won’t want to miss.


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    20 min

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The Trial goes behind the headlines of some of the biggest trials in the world. We take you into the courtroom, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying…

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