The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch episodes

  • 20VC: Nebius Co-Founder on AI Infrastructure Bubbles | The Real Impact of Open Source on OpenAI & Anthropic | How Price Elastic is Demand for Compute | Could Nebius Sell 10x More Compute If They Had It & more with Roman Chernin

    Roman Chernin is Co-Founder and Chief Business Officer of Nebius, one of the fastest-growing AI infrastructure companies in the world. Today, Nebius operates some of the largest AI compute clusters globally and serves leading AI labs, enterprises, and developers. Today, Nebius has a market cap of $57BN.

    AGENDA:

    00:00 — Why AI Infrastructure Is Not a Bubble

    05:00 — The Real Impact of Open Source on OpenAI & Anthropic

    11:00 — Jevons Paradox: Why Cheaper AI Creates More Demand

    13:00 — The Four Layers of AI Infrastructure Explained

    19:00 — If Nebius Had 10x More Capacity Tomorrow

    26:00 — The Shift from Training to Inference and Agents

    31:00 — How Token Factory Cuts AI Costs by 70%

    44:00 — Sovereign AI, Europe, and the Future of Model Building

    49:00 — Competing Against Hyperscalers with 10x More Capital

    59:00 — The Biggest Threat to Nebius Isn't Competition—It's Consolidation

    1 hr 7 min
  • 20Product: Inside Legora's Tech Stack: Why Token Maxing is Failing Enterprise Startups with Jacob Lauritzen, CTO @ Legora

    Jacob Lauritzen serves as the CTO at Legora, the fastest growing B2B enterprise company in history; hitting $100 million in ARR in just 18 months . Legora boasts a valuation of $5.6BN and has raised a total of $866 million in funding. Legora's investors include the likes of Accel, Benchmark, and Bessemer Venture Partners, alongside strategic tech giants NVIDIA (NVentures) and Salesforce Ventures.

    AGENDA:

    • 05:01 - How to Hire the Best Product Talent in 2026

    • 06:21 - The New Product Bottleneck: Shifting Beyond Code Creation

    • 09:24 - System Design vs. Code Creation: The Future Role of the Engineer

    • 14:04 - The Evolving Software Development Lifecycle & The Death of the Design Phase

    • 22:23 - Will Product and Engineering Fully Converge?

    • 29:16 - Scalability and UX: Designing for 10x vs. 100x Spikes

    • 38:15 - Scaling the Organization: What Breaks with a 250 Person Product Team

    • 47:05 - Quick-Fire Round: Hyper-Growth Tactics & Out-Working the Giants

    55 min
  • 20VC: Anthropic Files to Go Public | Token Budgeting Panic Hits Corporate America | Cognition Raises $1BN at $26BN Valuation | Apollo Warns PE Software Returns Will be Disastrous | The 9-9-6 Work Ethic: Performative Theatre or Startup Reality?

    AGENDA:

    00:00:00 — Private Markets Are "F***ing Done" & The Shift to Heavy CapEx

    00:00:46 — Anthropic Files to Go Public

    00:04:59 — Will the Anthropic IPO Break the Startup Ecosystem?

    00:06:22 — The "Billion-Dollar Position" Era: VCs Reset Their Expectations

    00:18:11 — The Trillion-Dollar Cash Grab: Google, SpaceX, and OpenAI Rush the Queue

    00:23:15 — Is the SaaS Apocalypse Over? Bouncing Off the Bottom

    00:25:34 — The Death of Human Per-Seat Licenses as Multiples Shift

    00:27:18 — Winners vs. Losers: How Agentic Focused Products Captured the Market

    00:30:26 — Cognition Raises $1 Billion at a $26 Billion Valuation

    00:33:04 — Token Budgeting Panic Hits Corporate America

    00:35:46 — Multi-Model Workflows and the Future of Cost Containment

    00:41:20 — Choosing Tokens Over Humans: The 2027 Engineering Reality Check

    00:46:42 — Can Large Companies Survive Slashing One-Third of Their Engineering Talent?

    00:57:40 — Big Law Flex: Kirkland & Ellis Pledges $500 Million to Build In-House AI

    01:01:21 — Giving Away the Crown Jewels: Will Firms Trust Claude?

    01:08:44 — Robinhood's AI Move: Automating Financial Planning vs. Beating the Market

    01:16:15 — Apollo Warns PE Software Returns Are About to Be Disastrous

    01:19:15 — $10 Billion Carry Pools: Will VC Winners Quit the Game?

    01:24:10 — The 9-9-6 Work Ethic: Performative Theatre or Startup Reality?

    01:30:10 — The Great Valley Contradiction: Working 24/7 to Automate White-Collar Work

    1 hr 35 min
  • 20VC: Mercor CEO on Why Application Layer Companies Have No Defensibility, The Model is the Product | Token Spend Will Exceed Headcount Spend in 5 Years | The True Cost of Hiring AI Researchers in the Valley Today with Brendan Foody

    Brendan Foody is the Founder and CEO @ Mercor, one of the leading data providers to the largest labs on the planet including OpenAI. In the last two years, Brendan has scaled the company to $1.5BN in ARR and a valuation of $10BN.

    AGENDA:

    True or False:

    • Mercor lost Meta and OpenAI as a customer with the hack?

    • Mercor has been poaching competitor talent, paying them millions?

    • Mercor revenue is not real revenue and is only GMV?

    12:56 Would Brendan sell Mercor for $30 billion?

    14:23 Why everyone is wrong that AI will lead to labor displacement?

    15:59 We will create many new jobs that do not exist with AI.

    16:59 Why training agents will be a massive labor category that does not exist today

    19:51 Will we see the data provider market unbundle and specialize into verticals?

    22:24 Is the stated revenue really revenue or is it really GMV?

    27:55 How a 1 million ARR company secured one of the best investors in the world with a helicopter ride

    29:41 How Felicis secured the deal of the decade with a race track and a set of Ferraris

    32:59 Which investment round felt like the highest price to grow into?

    34:49 Why will value accrue to the infrastructure layer, not the application layer, in the next 12 months?

    35:46 Why the model is the product and why application layer companies should be scared as a result

    37:22 Why network effects will be the determinant of value creation

    38:46 Why the forward-deployed motion, not the GTM motion, will determine true value creation.

    41:59 Why token spend within organizations is going to continue to increase

    43:54 Why agent evaluation to commoditize the model layer will be a massive business for enterprises?

    51:13 Why we should have increased capital gains tax

    01:01:31 How to compete with $20 million a year from Meta?

    01:08:49 Will Mercor go public and when?

    1 hr 16 min
  • 20VC: Corgi Insurance: The Most Intense Workplace Culture in America: 7 Days Per Week, Founder Sleeps in Office, Corgi Cafe Open 24 Hours a Day, 60% of First 30 Employees Have Corgi Tattoos | The Journey from $0 to $2.6BN Valuation in Just 2 Years

    Nico Laqua is the Co-Founder and CEO of Corgi Insurance, an AI-native insurance carrier built for startups. Corgi is the most intense workplace culture in America. The team works 7 days per week. The founder sleeps in the office. ⅔ of the first 30 team members have a Corgi tattoo. This week, Corgi raised $106M, valuing the company at a whopping $2.6BN.

    AGENDA:

    06:35 Why going to university was a massive waste of time

    09:42 Why we work seven days a week

    11:58 Why we do work trials and how that is a test of people's stamina

    18:41 Why we created a cafe in the biggest annoyance with San Francisco

    22:00 Why I am so bullish on London

    23:49 Why I haven't sold a single secondary

    24:19 Why people who found companies in New York prioritise dating over their company

    30:46 Biggest lessons on cash comp and equity

    31:13 Team members can be split into three separate groups

    34:59 Biggest lesson from Brian Chesky on price

    35:44 What is the right amount of time to be fundraising for?

    36:47 Good companies get deals done and what makes the best venture investors?

    40:34 Why AI makes sales and marketing more valuable

    43:12 Why I don't like boards and I don't think they're effective

    46:19 What I would like to see more of from venture funds

    48:05 Who was Corgi's first believer?

    54 min
  • 20VC: OpenAI & SpaceX S1 Drops | NVIDIA's $81BN Revenue Quarter | Cloudflare and ClickUp Do Controversial Layoffs | Exa, OpenRouter and Polsia Raise Mega Rounds | Uber and Microsoft Declare AI ROI for Developers is Questionable

    AGENDA:

    05:16 Nvidia Blowout Quarter: $81BN Revenues and Stock… Flat!

    10:39 Uber and Microsoft Declare Productivity Gains Questionable from AI

    25:26 The Layoffs Continue: ClickUp and Cloudflare

    34:39 OpenAI S1: Is it a Race? How Will it be Received?

    38:28 Do Anthropic Rush Out Their IPO Also?

    45:49 SpaceX S-1: "Why I Would Never Invest"

    48:06 Why Colossus is a Stroke of Genius By Elon

    51:31 Data Centers In Space is BS and Will Not Be Core to SpaceX

    58:04 Polsia Raises $30M at $250M Price: Is this the Peak?

    01:06:08 Exa Raises at $2.2BN to Build Search for Agents

    01:14:34 Is Replacing Your CRM with Vibe Coding Always Ragebait

    1 hr 26 min
  • 20VC: Cerebras CEO on the Future of Data Centres, Token Costs and Memory | We are Not in an Infra Bubble & Dario Got a Bad Deal with Elon for Compute | Should US Companies Sell to China & Why Most Layoffs are AI Washed with Andrew Feldman

    Andrew Feldman is the co-founder and CEO of Cerebras Systems. This month, Cerebras went public achieving a market cap of $70BN, the largest semiconductor IPO in history. Cerebras has a massive commercial backlog with a monumental, multi-year $20 billion compute agreement from OpenAI.

    AGENDA:

    05:58 - Why we are not in an infrastructure bubble and it is just the start

    08:00 - Sam Altman's superpower is his ability to forecast capex spend.

    08:58 - Anthropic did not get a good deal with Elon. They got a deal that was available.

    10:39 - What is going on with the price of memory and why is it a problem?

    16:40 - Are Google best positioned to produce tokens and what challenges do they face?

    19:23 - Is Coreweave dramatically undervalued or overvalued?

    24:34 - My biggest advice to entrepreneurs scaling their business

    30:13 - Why most of the layoffs are AI-washed and

    33:41 - What will we spend on tokens for software engineers in five years?

    34:48 - Why does the role of HR change so significantly in the world of AI?

    35:36 - Why lawyers are the biggest inhibitor of enterprise AI adoption

    39:20 - Why Jensen and Nvidia are wrong to sell chips to China

    42:49 - What needs to change in the U.S. to build a strategic asset in chips?

    51:00 - Should Cerebras invest in companies building on top of their platform; as Nvidia is?

    53:28 - Nothing changed when Cerebras IPO'd but I did make 800 millionaires.

    1 hr 2 min
  • 20Sales: The $100M CRO Bubble: Why Anthropic Are Causing a Comp Crisis | Why You Should Never Hire From Salesforce or Service Now | How to Hire, Train and Forecase in a World of AI with Chad Peets and Chris Degnan

    Chad Peets is one of the most straight-talking, no BS sales leaders of our time. Today, he partners with founders of the fastest growing companies in the world, like Harvey, Factory to build the best sales teams in a world of AI.

    Chris Degnan is a legendary technology sales leader who achieved the historic feat of scaling Snowflake from $0 to $4BN in ARR.

    AGENDA:

    00:00 – The $100M CRO Packages Nobody Believes Are Real

    04:10 – Why Most "Elite" Salespeople Are Actually Just Order Takers

    08:00 – The Secret to Hiring Killer Sales Talent at Early-Stage Startups

    10:05 – 20x Quotas & The Death of Traditional Pipeline Generation

    16:20 – The ARR Scam: Why Most AI Revenue Numbers Are Fake

    17:45 – Why the Best Engineers Do Not Want to Be Forward Deployed Engineers

    21:10 – Why Paying Everyone the Same Kills Great Sales Organisations

    24:15 – Anthropic's Crazy Compensation Is Breaking the Entire Sales Market

    29:00 – The Brutal Truth About Replacing CROs & Firing Sales Leaders

    32:20 – Forecasting in AI Is Completely Broken

    38:20 – The Fatal Mistake Founders Make Chasing Venture Valuations

    39:40 – Why Most VCs Give Absolutely Terrible Sales Advice

    42:10 – Global Sales From Day One: The New AI Go-To-Market Playbook

    44:15 – "Anthropic Is a $5 Trillion Company"

    47:40 – The Death of the Traditional SDR & The Rise of Full-Stack AI Sellers

    49:00 – Consumption Pricing, Vertical AI & Why SaaS Is Getting Rewritten

    52:00 – What the Best Sales Cultures Still Get Right in the AI Era

    1 hr 20 min
  • 20VC: Andrej Karpathy Joins Anthropic & Anthropic Raises $30BN at $900BN Price | SpaceX Files S1: How Does it Trade | Cerebras Smashes Day 1: What it Means for IPOs | Why Mass Layoffs Are More Worrying Than Anyone Sees

    AGENDA:

    00:00 – Anthropic Eyes $900B Valuation & Andre Karpathy's Shock Move

    04:46 – Unpacking Anthropic's $30 Billion War Chest

    10:52 – The True Cost of AI Tokens: Is Salesforce Spending Too Much?

    15:59 – The Bear Case for Token Growth & Why Software Leaders Must Adapt

    22:56 – Public Tech Rebound: Figma & Datadog Crush Expectations

    26:59 – The Death of Traditional Web Builders? The Decline of Wix & Squarespace

    36:59 – Compute Starvation: Is the Semiconductor & Hardware Boom Sustainable?

    45:59 – Cerebras IPO Smashes Day One: The Biggest Tech Public Debut Since Snowflake

    48:17 – SpaceX Sets Date For the Largest IPO in History

    57:28 – Y Combinator's Mic Drop Deal & The Drama Behind Elon Musk's OpenAI Lawsuit

    01:11:57 – The Looming Backlash: Mass Tech Layoffs and the Politics of AI

    20VC:

    1 hr 22 min
  • 20VC: Turning Peter Thiel's $100K into $10M Angel Portfolio | The One Man Accelerator at The Four Seasons | Why VCs Can Be Sharks and What Founders Need to Know | Why Stocks and Cash are BS and You Should Invest in Land with Josh Browder

    Josh Browder is my favourite emerging manager. As the Founder of Browder Capital he has been the first check into unicorns like Micro1, Owner.com and Yuzu Health to name a few. He turned his Thiel Fellowship Grant of $100K into a whopping $10M angel portfolio. All new investments move into Josh's Four Seasons Residence where he then trains them on company building. They are only allowed to leave when they raise their seed round. In addition to this, Josh is the Founder & CEO @ DoNotPay, the now profitable company that has raised $22M from Marc Andreessen and others.

    AGENDA:

    00:00 Why I believe young founders make the best founders

    02:10 What do I look for in founders I'm investing in?

    10:00 How I test for founder commitment pre-investment

    11:00 What do I want to see in the childhoods of the entrepreneurs that I back?

    12:05 Why I make founders live with me in my Four Seasons residence after investing

    14:00 There are three reasons why pre-seed companies fail and how I solve for them

    15:45 What do I look for in a team to assure me they will last?

    16:50 Is $5 million post still attainable in this world?

    17:15 Should we be worried about the increasing levels of fraud at the early stages?

    18:10 Which Silicon Valley investor was the most impressive?

    20:00 Do VCs really add value?

    20:50 Does university carry less value than ever and should founders drop out if they have a dream and an idea?

    24:00 The advice of one lawyer changed the entire trajectory of this multi-million dollar company

    28:10 I would never invest in someone that I met over Zoom

    29:20 Are all the best founders you invest in delusional?

    31:10 What is the biggest benefit of being a Thiel Fellow?

    36:20 The problem of accelerators and why artificial constraints can enforce quality

    38:20 How we used Mark Zuckerberg's house as a viewing instrument tool to get users

    41:20 My pre-seed cheque in Micro One is now worth hundreds of millions and my lessons

    43:20 The biggest mistake VCs are making in assessing founders

    44:10 Why I will never tell the entrepreneur what to build and why I place little value on ideas

    47:00 Why kingmaking is real and why you should accept half the price from a tier one firm

    49:00 My biggest lessons on reserve investing

    53:00 Why price rounds are bullshit and we should do more SAFEs

    54:20 What all founders need to know about signing with a VC

    55:10 Single biggest advice to founders on how to get the best price

    57:30 What role does not exist today that will be massive in five years' time?

    59:10 Stocks are bullshit. Cash is bullshit. I put my money in land. My personal investing strategy

    1:01:00 Why the Trump administration is unwaveringly good for US business

    1:03:20 Why competitive markets are the best investments

    1:05:40 The serendipity of San Francisco is unmatched

    1:08:10 What things does no one know about Marc Andreessen that everyone should know?

    1 hr 30 min

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC) interviews the world's greatest venture capitalists with prior guests including Sequoia's Doug Leone and Benchmark's Bill Gurley. Once per week, 20VC Host, Harry Stebbings is also joined by one of the great founders of our time with prior founder episodes from Spotify's Daniel Ek, Linkedin's Reid Hoffman, and Snowflake's Frank Slootman.

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