What if the cage keeping you stuck as a leader isn't your circumstances, your team, or your market — but your own autopilot thinking? In this episode, Theresa sits down with Lucas Sherradan, longtime Keller Williams leader, host of the Built Out Podcast, keynote speaker, and author of the forthcoming book The Uncaged Leader: Surprisingly Simple Shifts in Curiosity and Awareness That Empower Leadership.

Lucas unpacks the difference between leaders who are led by vision and leaders who are led by preference, programming, and fear. He walks through why 95% of people believe they are self-aware while only 10% actually are, and what that gap is costing in real estate businesses, marriages, and leadership pipelines every day. He introduces his Five O'Clock Formula — a single curiosity question that interrupts judgment before it hardens into story — and explains why authority does not need volume to lead.

Lucas also opens up about the personal story that shaped the book: his mother, a Korean immigrant who fought ovarian cancer with extraordinary courage, and the deathbed promise that became the heart of his mission. 100% of the profits from The Uncaged Leader go to fighting human trafficking. You can join the wait list and pre-order at theuncagedleader.com.

If you have been leading from autopilot, getting results that look good on paper but feel hollow, or wondering why the same patterns keep showing up in your team and your life, this conversation is the reset. Subscribe at theresaflood.com for weekly training guides and tools.