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The WARC Podcast episodes

June 02 Connecting sustainability with marketing effectiveness
How do social values and environmental sustainability boost marketing effectiveness? Goodvertising's Thomas Kolster joins WARC's Amy Rodgers to discuss how sustainability is a driving factor on the most effective advertising campaigns, based on WARC Rankings data.
Guests:
Thomas Koster, Founder, Goodvertising
Amy Rodgers, Head of Content, WARC Creative
Chapters:
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00:00 – Intro: The WARC Effective 100 Rankings Explained
01:43 – Goodvertising, Climate and Brand Effectiveness
02:20 – Inside the Study: 12 Years of WARC Effective 100 Sustainability Data
03:28 – What Does “Sustainability” Really Mean for Brands and People?
05:38 – How Brand Sustainability Evolved
10:26 – How Many Top Effective Campaigns Are Truly Sustainable?
13:02 – Category Winners: Toiletries, Cosmetics and Retail in Sustainability
14:28 – Luxury, Premium and the Risk of Sustainability for the Wealthy Only
18:56 – Making Sustainability Affordable: Ugly Produce, IKEA and Circularity
21:32 – Why Financial Services Brands Over-Index on Sustainability Messaging
24:28 – AXA’s “Three Words”: Closing the Gender Risk Gap in Insurance
25:54 – Dove Real Beauty: Long-Term Brand Building and Creative Bravery
30:05 – DP World’s “Minus Three Degrees” Idea
32:58 – Bold, Consistent, Life-Centric Sustainability for Marketers
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40 min
May 28 The Effective CMO: The New York Times' Amy Weisenbach
How does a 175-year-old news brand thrive in a volatile media economy? Amy Weisenbach, Chief Marketing Officer at The New York Times, joins WARC's Anna Hamill to discuss the strategies behind the publication's outsized revenue growth, as well as how to build brand trust and daily habits across news, games, sports and much more.
Guests:
Amy Weisenbach, Chief Marketing Officer, New York Times
Anna Hamill, Senior Editor, The WARC Podcast
Chapters:
00:00 – Intro: The Effective CMO with The New York Times
01:00 – The New York Times by the numbers: subs, ads, longevity
02:07 – What “marketing effectiveness” means at The New York Times
03:24 – Beyond news: Games, The Athletic, Cooking and Wirecutter
08:22 – Building an ecosystem brand: the All Access Bundle strategy
09:32 – Wordle, daily habits and turning free users into subscribers
11:26 – Why early bundle messaging failed – and what actually worked
14:30 – Brand platform explained: “It’s Your World to Understand”
18:00 – One brand, many audiences: readers, subscribers and advertisers
19:27 – Global, national, local: balancing consistency and personalization
21:10 – Trust, misinformation and defending the New York Times brand
23:30 – Durability: protecting core journalism while growing new products
25:43 – Video-first future: NYT’s video and social channel strategy
29:37 – Case study: Taylor Swift, Jay-Z and the 30 greatest songwriters
32:42 – Live events, Wordle game show and the rise of AI in marketing
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42 min
May 26 Five 2026 consumer trends you need to know
AI companions, social media concerns and 'comfort spending' are among key trends shaping consumer behaviour in 2026. WARC's Adi Kishore speaks to Stephanie Siew and GWI's Jason Mander about the big changes marketers need to know, based on WARC's 2026 Consumer Trends Report.
Guests:
Jason Mander, Chief Insight Officer, GWI
Stephanie Siew, Analyst, WARC
Adi Kishore, Insights Director, WARC
Chapters:
0:00 – Intro: WARC Podcast & 2026 Consumer Trends Report
2:03 – Permacrisis: Why Consumer Sentiment Is Fragmented in 2026
3:30 – Trend 1: Uncertainty Fuels Comfort Consumption & “Small Joys”
6:05 – Where Spend Is Shifting: Comfort Food, Streaming, Affordable Luxury
6:27 – Trend 2: AI Redefining Companionship and Emotional Connection
10:06 – Ethics, Safety & Vulnerable Users in AI Companionship
11:57 – Trend 3: Youth Social Media Restrictions & Digital Safety Backlash
13:49 – Influencer Marketing, Regulation & Reaching Gen Z Safely
16:16 – Trend 4: Reassessing “Made in China” & the Rise of Eastfluence
19:15 – Chinese & Asian Brands: Electronics, Beauty, EVs and Culture
20:37 – Trend 5: Generative AI in Content – Efficiency vs Authenticity
22:20 – Consumer Trust, AI Labeling and the Role of Human Creativity
24:15 – Balancing Innovation and Trust in 2026
24:55 – Action Points for CMOs: Where to Start With These 5 Trends
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27 min
May 21 The Multiplier Playbook: your guide to better marketing
Are you stuck in the ROAS death spiral? Marketers have long struggled to prove the ROI of brand building, relying on flawed, short-term metrics that erode long-term value. BERA's Michael Reh and WARC's Ann Marie Kerwin explore how to accurately track and quantify the Multiplier Effect—the compound growth achieved when brand and performance marketing work together.
Guests:
Michael Reh, Head of Data Science and Analytics, BERA
Ann Marie Kerwin, Americas Editor, WARC
Chapters:
0:00 – Intro: The Multiplier Effect on The WARC Podcast
0:10 – Why brand building struggles to land in the C-suite
2:06 – Framing brand as a financial asset, not a marketing expense
3:48 – How strong brands boost ROAS and performance marketing returns
5:17 – The “missing 15%”: uncovering base sales driven by brand equity
8:01 – The brand equity metrics that matter: familiarity, regard, meaning, uniqueness
10:18 – The “doom loop”: cutting brand advertising and eroding equity
12:24 – Connecting brand equity to pricing power and profitability
16:20 – How brand building grows enterprise value and stock performance
19:15 – Brand equity as crisis insurance and a buffer in volatile times
21:55 – One piece of advice for CMOs on true marketing effectiveness
23:20 – Multiplier Playbook: where to find BERA’s findings on WARC
23:40 – What’s next in the Multiplier Playbook podcast series
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24 min
May 19 How Meta evolved its advertising proposition
Meta's ad business funds an aggressive AI programme which, in turn, fuels the flywheel through further increases in ad revenue. WARC's Alex Brownsell joins Anna Hamill explore Meta’s hyper-efficient ad business, evaluate usage across its apps, and assess the performance of Meta campaigns.
Guests:
Alex Brownsell, Head of Content, WARC Media
Anna Hamill, Senior Editor, The WARC Podcast
Chapters:
0:00 – Intro: Meta’s ad revenue “defies economic gravity”
0:27 – WARC Media’s Platform Insights: Meta report explained
2:03 – How big is Meta’s ad business vs other platforms?
4:14 – Why Meta is outgrowing the global social ad market
5:51 – Performance marketing, SMEs and Meta’s advertiser base
6:51 – How Meta uses AI for targeting, creative and measurement
9:42 – Meta audience demographics across Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp
12:02 – Instagram Reels, short-form video and micro drama trends
15:38 – Does AI investment actually improve Meta's campaign performance?
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23 min
May 14 The Multiplier Effect: what we know so far
WARC's research The Multiplier Effect proved that stronger brand equity acts as a multiplier, driving greater impact and efficiency for performance advertising. Ahead of the next stage of the project, WARC's Ann Marie Kerwin spoke to David Tiltman and the ANA's Stephanie Fierman about new survey data and what we've learned so far.
Guests:
Stephanie Fierman, Head of Brand Practice, ANA
David Tiltman, Chief Content Officer, WARC
Ann Marie Kerwin, Americas Editor, WARC
Chapters:
0:00 – Intro: Revisiting The Multiplier Effect
0:09 – Brand building vs performance: why the “say–do gap” matters
1:33 – What is The Multiplier Effect report?
3:35 – Explaining the multiplier effect: brand × performance
6:49 – ROI proof: shifting from performance-heavy to balanced media
7:09 – ANA survey: budget pressure and rising demand for financial impact
7:53 – Short-termism, click-throughs and the ‘doom loop’ in advertising
11:41 – C-suite disconnect: saying brand matters but not crediting it
13:36 – Brand equity, LLMs and generative AI discoverability
17:39 – The Multiplier Playbook and the eight implementation blockers
21:01 – Fixing the say–do gap: metrics, silos and creative platforms
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30 min
May 12 How marketing measurement is evolving in 2026
Michael Kaminsky, co-founder of Recast, joins Paul Stringer to discuss media's shift to outcomes measurement and the impact of AI on measurement, as they try to disentangle AI hype from reality.
Chapters:
00:00 – Intro: WARC's Future of Measurement 2026
00:09 – Why the Future of Marketing Measurement Matters for CMOs
02:47 – From Reach to Outcomes: Why Legacy Media Must Prove Business Impact
04:09 – Can You Measure Trust? Linking Brand Trust Metrics to Sales Outcomes
06:26 – Meta, Google and AI Optimisation: How Platforms Drive Incremental Conversions
09:49 – Why Independent Validation Beats Platform-Reported Attribution
11:26 – Measuring Cross-Media Halo Effects in E‑commerce and Retail
13:13 – How AI Is Moving Measurement from Reporting to Real-Time Decisioning
17:18 – Will AI Speed Up MMM and Incrementality Tests?
20:21 – Building a Learning Culture: Turning Measurement into Behaviour Change
23:21 – Agentic AI and Foundation MMMs: Generalist vs Bespoke Models
31:41 – Avoiding Snake Oil and Making Measurement Work
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34 min
May 07 The daytime drop: rethinking social media effectiveness
Not all time spent with social media is equal, according to new research. Social effectiveness varies significantly by time of day, giving out of home media an important role in priming and amplifying social media campaigns. Posterscope's Russell Smither and Dentsu's Ciara Smyth join WARC's Alex Brownsell to discuss. For 40 years, WARC has been providing the marketing industry with
rigorous, unbiased evidence and expert effectiveness guidance. The WARC
Podcast publishes a new episode every Tuesday and Thursday.
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37 min
May 05 Marketing frameworks for a digital-first world
Effectiveness expert James Hankins joins the pod to analyse influential ideas in marketing effectiveness, including the Hankins hexagon, share of search, digital availability, and the gravity of e-commerce. Hosted by WARC's David Tiltman.
Guests:
James Hankins, Independent Marketing Consultant
David Tiltman, Chief Content Officer, WARC
Chapters:
00:00 – Intro: Effectiveness frameworks on The WARC Podcast
02:10 – What is share of search?
04:56 – Origins of Share of Search: Paul Dyson, Byron Sharp and Early Experiments
08:46 – Is Share of Search Predictive? Limits, Validation and Category Differences
12:35 – Using Share of Search Data to Map Market Performance and Brand Growth
14:56 – Retail Media, LLMs and the Future of Search Behaviour
20:00 – The Hankins Hexagon: Visualising Non-Linear Customer Journeys
23:03 – Funnels vs. “Pinball” Journeys: Why Classic Models Fall Short
25:38 – Applying the Hankins Hexagon: Markov Chains, Pathways and Media Strategy
30:04 – What Is Digital Availability? Beyond Mental and Physical Availability
32:18 – E-commerce, Retail Media and Managing the Digital Shelf
34:15 – The Gravity of E-Commerce: Hidden Costs of DTC and Free Delivery
37:36 – Nike, Returns and Delivery Fees: How E-Commerce Economics Are Resetting
44:09 – Brand, Pricing Power and the Four Ps in the Age of E-Commerce and AI
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49 min
April 30 What resilience means for brands right now
What does brand resiliency mean in a polycrisis? Fast Venture's Wade Eagar shares a four-phase framework for marketers to navigate geopolitical and economic uncertainty with astute crisis planning. Hosted by WARC's Catherine Driscoll.
Guests:
Wade Eagar, Chief Strategy Officer, FAST Ventures
Catherine Driscoll, EMEA Commissioning Editor, WARC
Chapters:
00:00 – Intro: How to navigate crisis - a four step framework
01:38 – Why stopping advertising in a crisis is a strategic mistake
03:37 – The hidden cost of going dark on market share and brand salience
05:22 – Why crisis marketing in the Middle East is different
07:43 – Pressures on CMOs: uneven impact and the HENRY consumer split
11:41 – Lessons from COVID: Talabat and Careem resilience case studies
14:31 – Phase 1: ASSESS – What to do in the first 24–48 hours of a crisis
18:36 – Phase 2: ADAPT – Fixing tone, messaging and usefulness to consumers
24:50 – Phase 3: ACT – Maintaining brand presence, not just volume
27:11 – Phase 4: ACCELERATE – Leading indicators to invest ahead of recovery
28:49 – B2B vs B2C, the CMO’s remit and one action to build resilience today
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36 min

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