This Undivided Life

Pain. We all face it. Can there be a purpose to it? Can it help us become more human, or even better humans? Scott and Troy talk about what can do in helping us become more human, less brittle, less angry if we let it.

We talk about Tish Warren's quote in her book Prayer in the Night: For Those Who Work or Watch or Weep..."The people I most respect are those who have suffered but did not numb their pain-who faced their darkness. In the process they have become beautifully weak, not tough as nails, not bitter or rigid, but men and women who bear vulnerability with joy and trust. They are almost luminescent, like a paper lantern, weak enough that the light shines through."

What is the cost to us, to others in our often relentless pursuit of control get us? More anxiety, stress, broken relationships, a loss of reality? Yes and Yes. Join the conversation as Sharon Hodde Miller talks about control and what it costs us, as she shares about her new book, The Cost of Control: Why we crave it, the anxiety it gives us, and the real power God promises. 

Sharon is a Christ-follower, author, pastor, and teacher.She loves her husband Ike, her kids, and her church, Bright City she co-pastors with her husband Ike. She's also a Disney connoisseur. She lives in North Carolina with Ike and her 3 kids.

Likes, heart emojis, what do we do when they don't give us the validation they used to? What do we when we rely on others who don't know us, but we allow them to have an inordinate effect on us? What do we do? Where should we go?  

Scott and Troy catch up and talk about the podcast and where we've been for a couple of weeks.

Todd W. Hall (PhD, Rosemead School of Psychology) is professor of psychology at Rosemead School of Psychology at Biola University, where he teaches courses on the integration of psychology and theology, psychodynamic psychotherapy, and positive psychology. He is a faculty affiliate at the Harvard Human Flourishing Program at Harvard University and a founding partner at Flourishing Metrics.

Hall is an award-winning researcher, focusing on relational approaches to spirituality, virtue, and leadership. He is a coauthor of Psychology in the Spirit and Relational Spirituality, developer of several widely used spiritual assessments, and codeveloper of the Flourish Assessment. He and his wife, Liz, have two sons and live in Southern California.

Jay Kim is the author of Analog Church (2020), Analog Christian (2022), 40 Days through the Book: Colossians (2022), and a contributing author to Before You Lose Your Faith (2021), Red Skies (2022), and The Upside Down Kingdom Study Bible (2023).

Some of his written work has been featured in Christianity Today, The Gospel Coalition, Missio Alliance, and Relevant Magazine.

Often times we want to big things to change the world, but as Mister Rogers said, what if we thought about doing small things and how that would change others as well as us. 

With a PhD in Human Development and Family Relations, spending nearly a decade as a Human Sexuality instructor at various universities and colleges, and leading churches for nearly 20 years, Dr. E, Eric Sandras has seen and heard it all. He has met countless people who long for meaningful, significant and authentic relationships with others and with God. People who need a second or third chance to experience God’s grace.

​Dr. E’s  teachings and four books: When The Sky Is Falling, Buck Naked Faith, Plastic Jesus, and Mystics, Mavericks, and Miracle Workers 

Scott and Troy talk about the influence of both their dads had on their lives. It's a fun discussion of what fathers can do to leave a lasting legacy for their kids.

Helen Lee has been a Christian publishing professional since 1993, when she began her career working at Christianity Today (CT) magazine. She is the director of product innovation at InterVarsity Press, where she formerly served as an associate editor, director of marketing, and associate director of strategic partnerships. 

Helen is the author of The Missional Mom, co-author of The Race-Wise Family, and contributor to numerous other books and Bibles, including the NIV Devotional Bible for Women and the Everyday Matters Bible for Women.