The Book Review

Tom Perrotta on the Return of Tracy Flick


Listen Later

Few fictional characters in recent decades have been as intensely discussed as Tracy Flick. The ambitious teenage protagonist of Tom Perrotta’s novel “Election” (1998) and the ensuing film adaptation, starring Reese Witherspoon, has been reconsidered in recent years as misunderstood and unfairly maligned. On this week’s podcast, Perrotta talks about Tracy’s return in his new novel, “Tracy Flick Can’t Win.”

“I think most people, when they think about Tracy Flick — I say this in all sad modesty — they’re thinking about Tracy in the movie,” Perrotta says. “‘Election’ as a book didn’t make a huge splash, and Reese Witherspoon’s performance was so powerful that I think the debate is really around Tracy in the film. And maybe to some degree me writing this book was an attempt to reclaim my own version of Tracy.”

Ann Leary visits the podcast to discuss her new novel, “The Foundling,” which was inspired by the real-life story of Leary’s grandmother, who worked, in the 1930s, at a public asylum that sequestered “unfit” women. Leary did a great deal of research for the book, and felt freedom in being able to bring it to bear in a work of fiction rather than history.

“I really wanted a story,” Leary says. “I could write about the widespread practice of eugenics, but I would have to kind of stick it to the place where my grandmother worked. And what I did in my novel was read about many other asylums, because there were many others. And I was able to make a fictitious place where I used things that I’d learned from the various different institutions.”

Also on this week’s episode, Alexandra Alter has news from the publishing world; and Gregory Cowles and Elizabeth Harris talk about what they’ve been reading. John Williams is the host.

Here are the books discussed in this week’s “What We’re Reading”:

“frank: sonnets” by Diane Seuss

“Life Between the Tides” by Adam Nicolson

“Saturday Night and Sunday Morning” by Alan Sillitoe

We would love to hear your thoughts about this episode, and about the Book Review’s podcast in general. You can send them to [email protected].

Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

The Book ReviewBy The New York Times

  • 4.1
  • 4.1
  • 4.1
  • 4.1
  • 4.1

4.1

3,565 ratings


More shows like The Book Review

View all
Popcast by The New York Times

Popcast

1,447 Listeners

Fresh Air by NPR

Fresh Air

38,156 Listeners

The New Yorker: Fiction by WNYC Studios and The New Yorker

The New Yorker: Fiction

3,316 Listeners

The Political Scene | The New Yorker by WNYC Studios and The New Yorker

The Political Scene | The New Yorker

3,890 Listeners

Books and Authors by BBC Radio 4

Books and Authors

369 Listeners

The New Yorker Radio Hour by WNYC Studios and The New Yorker

The New Yorker Radio Hour

6,591 Listeners

Modern Love by The New York Times

Modern Love

8,753 Listeners

Inside The Times by The New York Times

Inside The Times

133 Listeners

The New Yorker: The Writer's Voice - New Fiction from The New Yorker by WNYC Studios and The New Yorker

The New Yorker: The Writer's Voice - New Fiction from The New Yorker

2,084 Listeners

The Run-Up by The New York Times

The Run-Up

2,069 Listeners

The Daily by The New York Times

The Daily

111,123 Listeners

Radio Atlantic by The Atlantic

Radio Atlantic

2,267 Listeners

The Paris Review by The Paris Review

The Paris Review

783 Listeners

Change Agent by The New York Times

Change Agent

1,465 Listeners

Caliphate by The New York Times

Caliphate

12,628 Listeners

Charm City by The New York Times

Charm City

299 Listeners

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat by New York Times Opinion

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

6,706 Listeners

The Latest by The New York Times

The Latest

469 Listeners

The Candidates by The New York Times

The Candidates

52 Listeners

Jungle Prince by The New York Times

Jungle Prince

2,289 Listeners

The Choice by New York Times Opinion

The Choice

380 Listeners

Rabbit Hole by The New York Times

Rabbit Hole

6,668 Listeners

The Ezra Klein Show by New York Times Opinion

The Ezra Klein Show

15,191 Listeners

Day X by The New York Times

Day X

1,495 Listeners

Poured Over by Barnes & Noble

Poured Over

293 Listeners

NPR's Book of the Day by NPR

NPR's Book of the Day

590 Listeners

The Interview by The New York Times

The Interview

1,441 Listeners

The Run-Up (2016) by The New York Times

The Run-Up (2016)

7 Listeners

The Argument by New York Times Opinion

The Argument

17 Listeners

Critics at Large | The New Yorker by The New Yorker

Critics at Large | The New Yorker

553 Listeners

The Opinions by The New York Times Opinion

The Opinions

389 Listeners

The Run-Up Guide to 2024 by The New York Times

The Run-Up Guide to 2024

0 Listeners